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uh he is the executive director of
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destination north ontario
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but more importantly he is the owner of
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one of the most exquisite
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operations in the country we've said
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it's called lodge 88 and it is truly a
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little slice of heaven this lake is
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is unbelievable for us it has been such
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a lucky lake we come down
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we go to that lodge right there and get
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the best lodge that we've ever been to
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and we stick walleye like this left
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right center a bad day you'll still get
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a couple of these things on a good day
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that's me and he joins us now our good
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friend dave mclaughlin good morning
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afternoon i guess it would be hey how
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are you yeah how are you
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listening and hearing about uh how hard
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it was to make a living uh
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as a tournament fisherman uh try being
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yeah no kidding oh my god
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nicely fit yeah that's so true
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are you are you at the lodge yeah i'm at
0:56
the lodge right now so coming to you by
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satellite so if a bird flies over or
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something we might lose our connection
1:02
uh it's been pretty good for the last
1:04
hour so you'll knock on wood
1:06
so so david's lodge is larger to eat on
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this noggy lake tell everybody just to
1:12
you know geographically located in the
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lodge state well we're 88 miles west to
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canadian pacific railway 3600 miles
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and 34 air miles southeast of white
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roughly about 200 miles uh north of
1:29
so one of the um one of the exciting
1:34
david's operation i mean you could fly
1:36
in obviously that's probably the most
1:38
but and i don't know whether it's still
1:40
available david you you'll you'll
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correct me everyone but i think one of
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appealing ways to to come and visit you
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is on the rail and uh in our particular
1:51
case the first time we came
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to uh join you um i think we went out of
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uh is it hawk junction uh
1:59
one of the two yeah that train trip
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in on the rail um with the old bud car
2:08
it's first of all it's historical but
2:11
experience of of northern ontario
2:15
is it still being used yeah still
2:18
uh you know just a few years ago via
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operation of the train and uh so they've
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improved their uh on time performance
2:26
i don't know i think i kind of remember
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you guys getting in a little a little
2:31
and i think you brought a new definition
2:33
to the to the word bud
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yes three times a week out of uh sudbury
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uh or out of white river
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and uh right now uh they're on a reduced
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schedule because of the pandemic uh just
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still running and we're glad to have it
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let's just uh for a moment pete
2:55
let's just uh before we get on to the
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pandemic and all we had a million things
2:59
but uh for a moment let's talk about
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what you just said if i remember
3:02
correctly that wasn't our first time
3:04
visiting you but but i think it might
3:06
have been the second where we brought
3:08
44 people or 48 people uh into the lodge
3:12
and and only because of the rail service
3:16
because otherwise that trip wouldn't
3:17
have happened how else do you bring such
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a big group of people
3:20
to one spot other than on a train and uh
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we knew pete and i knew we were in
3:26
trouble when we met these guys
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i think it was in sudbury february train
3:30
stations train station
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part of a national contest that we had
3:35
anyways they the the point is that they
3:38
were all meeting in sudbury and then in
3:40
sudbury we're going to get on the train
3:41
and we're going to come up to lodge 88
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and pete and i knew we were in trouble
3:47
vehicle started arriving and
3:50
one of the first vehicles that came up
3:52
was a 40-foot motorhome
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hauling a 35-foot trailer
3:58
we thought what the hell is going on
4:01
well the trailer was full of beer
4:03
they had i don't know how many came here
4:08
we knew we were going to be in trouble
4:09
because they said yeah it's for our
4:11
out there i mean we're going to be on
4:13
the train for six hours or so i mean
4:14
we've got to have some some
4:16
beer and they proceeded to unload this
4:19
trailer in one of the trailers on the
4:22
train one of the cars in the train
4:26
yeah yeah we should have all had shares
4:34
and yeah and that's another point is we
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went to their cabins that one night
4:37
after seeing all that 100 cases of beer
4:40
stupidly number it was well they
4:43
three two fours uh at two four a day for
4:47
24 and and uh uncle i won't say his last
4:51
name uncle would have two beer
4:52
cases of beer per day he already threw
4:54
an extra case if he hat but then we went
4:56
the cottage that they were in and then
4:57
we got in there and not only is the beer
5:00
60 ounces of hard boost sitting on the
5:03
you know we get hung over we have a we
5:07
oh my god these guys can drink man yeah
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they were pretty cool i think
5:11
an atv with the empties with deposits
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you'd make a friggin fortune on that
5:17
anyway um that's just one of the many
5:20
experiences that uh that lodge 88 has
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for us for sure um but let's talk about
5:25
the pandemic situation so so
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how long have you been open now well we
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we've been here since may the 24th it
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was uh you know it was a late year for
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ice so we're a little late coming in
5:36
uh technically you opened since the 13th
5:39
you know kind of when we got the word
5:40
from the province that uh that we were
5:42
okay to uh to rent cabins and so
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we've had uh people here pretty steady
5:47
through the season except maybe
5:48
the month of july was uh was uh was was
5:52
uh now we've been open for two weeks on
5:54
the full american plan the dining room's
5:56
and nice to see uh you know groups of
5:58
people uh here it's still
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nothing like it would normally be but uh
6:04
than than what we thought it would be
6:06
what's your dining room protocol right
6:08
now david do they have to wear masks i
6:09
mean you're not eating obviously but
6:11
what's your uh enlarged protocol there
6:13
seating et cetera well from there from
6:16
yeah from the health unit
6:17
is uh you know in public spaces inside
6:20
uh you know supposed to wear a mask so
6:22
people are wearing a mask if they're
6:23
coming in to to watch tv
6:25
um you know coming in sanitizing your
6:26
hands at the door and then sitting down
6:28
you don't yeah you don't have to wear a
6:30
mask to to eat your your dinner
6:32
no people aren't spending a lot of time
6:33
in the lodge they're spending more time
6:35
in their cabins and of course
6:36
out in the lake and we've had a
6:41
have yeah the fishing's been good so far
6:44
well it's been fantastic like uh you
6:46
know you think about uh you know maybe
6:48
that's one of the benefits
6:49
uh if there is a benefit or one of the
6:51
silver linings is you know the fishing
6:54
and uh and uh there haven't been a whole
6:57
lot of people on the lake
6:58
a lot of a lot of nice big big fish
7:01
coming in both walleye and northerns
7:03
so you're seeing a noticeable difference
7:05
of the lack of pressure versus
7:07
the results of fishing is it's higher
7:09
you can like actually notice that in one
7:11
single season i i you know i think we're
7:15
seeing it and i think over the longer
7:16
term where we're gonna really uh notice
7:18
it you know like you know we pretty much
7:21
you know had uh one year of no no
7:22
fishing pressure on the lake i mean the
7:25
um but um you know it can only uh help
7:29
yeah yeah now what about a catch and
7:31
release policy for up there is there
7:33
do you guys have a certain number you
7:34
can't keep or a size that you got to
7:36
throw back or is there a large
7:38
uh you know policy yeah so
7:41
you know we throw back uh most of the
7:43
fish right and especially
7:45
you know the bigger ones so we're we're
7:46
on the provincial slot size
7:48
you know uh here on on the lake and
7:51
in the fishing limits uh you know most
7:54
are keeping the smaller ones to eat and
7:58
uh we we strongly encourage uh you know
8:01
to put the bigger ones back in the water
8:03
for another day right okay now
8:07
yeah cause we ann's and i have obviously
8:09
been to the lodge a few times i've been
8:10
to a lot of lodges and all that and
8:12
and normally at the end of the day
8:16
boats get cleaned and they get re-gassed
8:18
refueled and all that kind of stuff is
8:21
measures now that cobit is you know
8:24
you you have to sanitize a boat how does
8:26
that work at all working out
8:29
well we got about uh a 60-page manual to
8:33
from uh from from from noto they did a
8:35
lot of work you know i think
8:37
most people if you were doing like the
8:40
um it's not so much in the boats because
8:43
you're in the same boat all week you've
8:45
got the same life jackets the same
8:46
equipment so that that's not so
8:48
important but certainly
8:49
to clean them between between guests the
8:52
big thing is in the cabins and uh
8:54
and being able to take out like
8:56
everything comes out of the cabin to get
8:58
done like all the linens like everything
9:00
comes out the dishes everything
9:01
goes through the the dishwasher we're
9:04
only booking half the cabins one week so
9:06
we can do the other half the next week
9:07
but as far as like the general cleaning
9:09
it's it's pretty much what
9:10
people should normally be doing like
9:12
cleaning your doorknobs and light
9:14
right you know you know lodge were a
9:15
little bit more careful going around
9:17
washing doorknobs and
9:18
and that type of thing a few times a day
9:22
people people everyone that's come
9:24
they've all been very good everyone's
9:27
you see that people have to realize too
9:31
lodges that ange and i have ever been to
9:33
we will say not because david's sitting
9:35
right here with us it is the
9:36
cleanest yeah in any day coleman or no
9:41
matter who first got there like ang says
9:43
he's a little bit anal when it comes to
9:44
lodge cleanliness et cetera et cetera we
9:46
could put the word diva
9:47
around pretty much but but when we got
9:51
he just looked at this place he said ah
9:54
i'm in heaven look at this there's no
9:55
dust in the corner there's no
9:57
the place is already immaculately clean
9:59
so i mean there's probably not a whole
10:00
lot of difference during copen because
10:02
the place is just that good so just to
10:04
let everybody know how clean it always
10:06
since i think the word neurotic
10:10
okay good stuff justifiably so right
10:13
i'd describe it to people um
10:16
to to let them better understand what
10:18
we're talking about and only people who
10:20
cleanliness will understand this it is
10:25
to clean floors in the corners
10:29
so when you're doing your daily
10:30
maintenance i know we shouldn't be
10:31
talking about this on a fishing show but
10:33
i think it's really cool
10:34
where i associate a lot of you when you
10:37
corners you know whether you're waxing
10:40
them or cleaning floors
10:42
it is really difficult to get in the
10:45
apex of the corner because because
10:47
whatever you do is going to leave a
10:50
i'm telling you at lodge 88
10:53
there is not a corner anywhere to be
10:57
that is not clean that's how you tell
11:00
that's the difference between a really
11:04
uh place and one that's okay
11:08
way out in the middle of nowhere that's
11:14
you know with that with my dad and uh
11:17
you know making a big investment in new
11:20
you know so it's uh it's a lot easier to
11:23
start from brand new than to
11:24
to pick up with something that's you
11:26
know 50 or 60 years old that's for sure
11:29
well tell folks about that there's a bit
11:30
of history here i i mentioned the fact
11:32
that it's two and three generations old
11:34
it's not something that just started
11:37
but in fact lodge 88 was completely
11:39
rebuilt maybe you can sort of walk us
11:40
through it a bit and give us a bit of a
11:44
sure so my grandfather showed up off the
11:47
you know the the same train that we have
11:49
now 60 some years ago
11:51
um with a canoe and uh paddled up the
11:53
lake he got almost uh a full mile
11:56
found a spot and they were back the next
11:58
year they bought the
11:59
plant from the ministry of natural
12:00
resources and came in and started
12:02
building so i think 59 was the first
12:04
uh that they operated and uh you know
12:08
over time you know things uh you know
12:11
and uh we shut the property down in the
12:15
and then came back a few years later and
12:18
pretty much knocked everything down
12:20
to rebuild cabins you know with with
12:22
bigger bathrooms and uh you know bigger
12:25
front rooms like the old cabins have
12:26
basically enough room for a table and
12:29
you know maybe a fridge and uh and the
12:33
you know like it the they were just so
12:37
that they were you know it was just it
12:39
just wasn't what people would
12:41
be looking for today when they
12:45
when your family first chose is
12:49
how important on a scale of one to ten
12:52
in that lake in order to build right
12:54
there was it like the oh my god this is
12:56
it we're building because of this
12:57
fishing or how's that
12:59
yeah well i guess you know the story had
13:02
as of my grandfather had to be fairly uh
13:05
and uh and uh really press seminar and i
13:08
think he pressed a few
13:10
uh used a few political connections to
13:12
get the land purchased they really
13:13
didn't want to sell them the property
13:14
uh on this lake they were steering them
13:16
to another one uh but that was the whole
13:19
he saw this place and uh he he was
13:23
made sure that he had it so he was able
13:25
to uh to buy five acres uh which at the
13:30
um because even now like a lot of the
13:32
the lodges and stuff they're
13:33
under a land use permit and not on deed
13:37
uh you know that made it a a lot easier
13:40
in a lot of ways um you know to operate
13:44
you know because if you're not on deed
13:45
of property how do you get a mortgage
13:49
uh you know kudos to him you know he was
13:51
uh you know he was he came out of the
13:53
and uh you know he uh you could see uh
13:56
you know he put into practice what he
13:58
learned in in the army and
14:00
over in europe in world war ii uh
14:04
the foresight that that was was needed
14:06
to uh who who could have predicted
14:09
what what lodge 88 has turned into today
14:12
and i know we we banter this around all
14:14
the time you know one of the greatest
14:16
operations we think certainly
14:18
uh in northern ontario probably all of
14:20
canada maybe in north america
14:22
and it's become legendary among uh folks
14:25
who want the ultimate walleye fishing
14:28
let's be honest about it you know that's
14:29
that's really the the meat potatoes
14:31
although you got some great northern's
14:33
pike fishing although there there's an
14:35
opportunical truck fishing although
14:38
people come to lodge 88 because they
14:43
to have at it with walleye and you have
14:46
got some of the most incredible walleye
14:48
um that anybody could possibly ever
14:52
we came up there the first time we shot
14:56
and we shot the entire episode i believe
14:59
i could be wrong but
15:01
if not the entire episode certainly
15:02
three quarters of the episode
15:04
with the lodge in the shot the whole
15:08
i remember that yeah and that was our
15:10
biggest fish in the episode the other
15:12
stuff was a couple of pillars just
15:14
we may want to show the rest of the lake
15:15
we should do something because it all
15:16
looks like it's all taking place
15:18
right in front of david's place exactly
15:21
so we're not going to lie to folks at
15:22
this you know this is the uh
15:24
the trip of a lifetime for everybody
15:28
it's not an inexpensive trip you are
15:30
classified as a premium
15:32
uh uh operator there's no doubt about it
15:36
worth it if you're looking for those
15:37
extra things that some of them we've
15:39
just mentioned you know
15:41
the bigger rooms the cleanliness the
15:42
food the food is we won't even get into
15:46
but it is it is you know legendary yeah
15:49
and now we've also said that the fishing
15:53
so it is worth the premium that one pays
15:58
i only bring this up because i know
16:01
pandemic and god only knows when we'll
16:06
um during this pandemic people are
16:09
well you know now's a good time to get a
16:12
we'll strong-arm those operators into
16:14
giving their stuff away
16:16
and uh and uh we're gonna get the best
16:19
deal and we're gonna tell them we're not
16:21
you know give it to us for nothing kind
16:22
of thing and and i always say it because
16:25
rumblings to this effect from other
16:28
and i was very disappointed when i heard
16:32
you know we as anglers should as adults
16:36
should be able to put two and two
16:37
together and figure out that
16:40
your community the outfitter lodge
16:42
owners resort owners
16:43
guides that whole industry
16:46
is is so severely hit with this pandemic
16:50
we have absolutely we have no inkling
16:54
of how bad it is in the north and so
16:57
i i want i say that because i want to
16:58
urge people watching us today
17:00
not to be of the mindset that wow this
17:03
is going to be a great opportunity to
17:06
deal on a trip rather maybe we need to
17:10
that this is a great opportunity for us
17:14
give something back and and maybe
17:17
you know we can kill two birds with one
17:19
stone maybe maybe we can have
17:21
the experience of a lifetime
17:24
um help an industry and help
17:28
families from the north get through this
17:32
you know this year i'm not going to be
17:33
going away obviously i'm not going
17:35
out of the country let alone the
17:36
province maybe i should book my family
17:41
with places like yours and that's what
17:43
we want to encourage in fact
17:45
we are on the cusp of of um
17:48
unveiling a new area a new place
17:52
on fishingcanada.com that's going to be
17:55
to operators and lodges and guides
17:59
and resorts and on it we're going to
18:03
folks we're going to incentivize them
18:06
there's no doubt about it
18:07
but we're going to encourage folks to
18:11
communities in the north our families in
18:14
our operators are the north and uh and
18:17
maybe spend a little bit of money here
18:19
uh at a time when you know we we need we
18:22
need the perfect excuse
18:24
to give back and there's none better
18:27
so um i i want to um offer you an
18:32
to put your product on fishingcanada.com
18:35
we want to tell the whole story i want
18:37
you to write the whole
18:38
story what we just spoke about i would
18:42
and and i know i'm putting you on the
18:43
spot i would love for you
18:46
to uh maybe maybe donate
18:49
a free trip that we can give away
18:52
on fishingcanada.com and i'd also like
18:56
you to consider uh for folks who book
19:00
on fishingcanada.com uh to maybe give
19:04
for it and i don't know what i'll leave
19:06
that up to you i don't know what that
19:08
but give them an opportunity to feel
19:10
good about making the right decision
19:12
to come and visit you because we can
19:15
i can tell them for sure that it'll be
19:18
a lifetime they will be altered
19:21
for the rest of their life after they
19:23
spent some time at lodge 88
19:26
you need to maybe do something just to
19:29
to push that over the top for them
19:34
yeah no thanks uh thanks for the
19:36
opportunity you guys have been so good
19:37
to us over the years
19:39
you know anything anytime you need you
19:40
just let us know and
19:42
and i think a lot of people have trouble
19:44
you know when we're talking about the
19:45
price point is they don't understand
19:47
that the price really reflects the cost
19:49
of doing business in the north
19:51
and remote and remote and you know as
19:54
bad as it is this year like you know my
19:56
brother at the air base like their their
19:57
airplane insurance went up 50
19:59
this spring just 55-0
20:03
and so you know it's uh it's it is
20:06
it you know the costs are high when
20:08
you're everything you do
20:09
involves uh you know float planes but
20:12
yeah i know that that's great and i
20:14
really appreciate it and uh for sure
20:16
yeah we'll sweeten the pot for you
20:19
awesome we'll put something together and
20:22
let you know and let the audience know
20:24
how when and where but um if we just
20:28
to your other uh put on your other hat
20:31
executive director of destination
20:33
northern ontario first of all tell folks
20:37
so we're funded through the the ontario
20:39
government and specifically the ministry
20:41
of heritage sport tourism and culture
20:44
and the only way i can remember that is
20:46
that hst criminal investigation
20:49
um and uh yeah so we're responsible for
20:52
uh developing tourism opportunities
20:54
across northern ontario
20:56
so that's product uh training marketing
21:00
investment and so obviously uh you know
21:03
this year has been tough for us uh
21:04
across the sector but uh i will say um
21:08
you know we we did tour with the
21:09
minister last week five days across the
21:11
and there's some aspects of the industry
21:13
that have come back now certainly
21:15
you know the angling side is continues
21:18
as does uh you know some of the uh you
21:21
know the hotels and restaurants in town
21:23
but along the highways things are busy
21:25
and uh you know things things have come
21:27
back people are touring
21:29
uh you know the the province i mean
21:31
we've got nowhere else to go
21:33
but um you know the big thing for the
21:34
north is the loss of the
21:36
the u.s market and we know why the
21:39
we hope that uh you know for next spring
21:43
things get better uh in the u.s where we
21:46
open the border safely but that's a half
21:49
a billion dollar hit
21:51
uh to northern ontario this summer uh
21:54
visitors like 500 million dollars to the
21:58
oh my god think about that a half a
22:01
just boom one segment
22:05
of business you know that's one segment
22:07
of the so how much money
22:09
is is being hit by the you know my guys
22:18
like the north is uh you know the north
22:22
you know hard hit here but uh you know
22:24
look at the big cities in in ontario
22:27
like downtown toronto right now the
22:29
occupancy in the hotels in downtown
22:31
is under eight percent oh my god
22:34
so you know the travel and tourism has
22:39
yeah for sure i understand speaking of
22:42
minister macleod up there last week
22:45
yeah yeah we got to travel uh uh you
22:48
know we started in sudbury went over to
22:49
north bay we got her in the float plane
22:51
we went paddling out in lake superior um
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you know made it as far as thunder bay
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did some more uh paddling up there at
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and uh she did what she's missed and uh
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so anyways the plans are she's coming in
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september to uh to go fishing
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uh for three days so uh we'll we'll see
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if that comes to be but
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uh wonderful wonderful lady um you know
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um uh you know can't say enough about
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and the support that she's given us over
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the last few months and through the
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or even the the government in general
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like you know for the ministry of
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to come out and um you know for the
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outfitters that are with land use
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permits to be able to stay those fees
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um you know there's outfitters that are
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that that's forty fifty thousand dollars
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that they just don't have this year
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and um you know they're they're doing
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everything they can and i know
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um a lot of people are looking for them
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um you know the need is just so great
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right now there's just
23:48
i just don't think there's enough money
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to support people it you know to to what
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in a lot of ways uh you know we're like
23:58
everyone we're we're figuring this out
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and all the more reason why we need to
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into our own hands when it comes to our
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uh areas of the province and we need to
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support them because
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because if we don't they won't be there
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and that's why we as
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anglers outdoors people in general need
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deep down inside and see how we can
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prop this up and and help support you
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uh i know we can i know we can make a
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and it won't be at a cost that we can't
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uh somehow we're going to pull this all
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under the fire i'm sure
24:36
yes and uh and have a great time and
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have a great time to boot and experience
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and the fishing is going to get better
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david we've run uh over time but more
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importantly we've taken
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way too much of your time um we
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so uh truly appreciate uh being able to
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and more importantly appreciate uh the
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job that you've done
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uh in northern ontario we look forward
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to being up there with you soon and uh
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when we're gonna be back on the road but
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we will get back on the road at some
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first year before i'm talking about
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how we can work together to support this
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i think times have changed in uh and uh
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yeah i think you guys have some really
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we'd like to be along there with you
25:30
thank you for joining us my friend wait
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wait wait wait wait wait we're gonna do
25:33
a lightning round with mr david remember
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before you're not getting out of that
25:45
i forgot so our walking around is just
25:49
if you can give us a really a one-word
25:51
answer or something really basic it's
25:52
just gonna be a few questions that and i
25:54
put together and the reason why i'm
25:56
is because i was talking to ange and i
25:57
had some change dave was supposed to be
25:59
on i had chondra's questions
26:00
and then bucky went oh i gotta get some
26:01
buck questions all about fishing and
26:02
then he says what about david you gotta
26:04
leave david up we're gonna do david here
26:10
if you have any or not but uh david
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in one word do quick answers whatever
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you got what is the most
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targeted fish species in northern
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walleye i think that's a no-brainer but
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i just wanted to make sure that one
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what is the largest wall
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i'm gonna say there was one um
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that was about 16 pounds caught back in
26:46
smallish there's a big fish yeah
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oh my god okay what is the more popular
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method of transportation to lodge 88
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train or plane i'm going to say
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train um by just a little bit okay
27:03
that's interesting i thought it'd be by
27:04
a lot but what is the
27:06
and you might not know this but i'm sure
27:08
you you might have a good idea but what
27:10
north drive to fishing lodge in ontario
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is there wonderful fishing lodge in
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i'm going to say probably it's got to be
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around red lake uh up up in that area
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drive-in drive-in lodges uh or even a
27:29
um that that's got to be the furthest
27:33
you know maybe with ring of fire that'll
27:36
are you assuming you know the answer to
27:38
this no i don't i have no idea
27:40
i think i were there and i believe it's
27:49
okay my final question to david this
27:51
one's a good one okay i like this one
27:53
is there genuine legitimate authentic
27:57
royalty in the blood of the queen of the
28:03
i knew angela would you put me on the
28:09
obviously obviously there's got to be
28:12
something there somewhere
28:17
i'm sure it's there she's gonna hate me
28:20
for throwing that question out there but
28:23
she couldn't she's gonna text me and
28:25
tell me i'm an ass again
28:28
for sure oh i should probably text all
28:33
anyways david uh we appreciate you
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joining us my friend
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uh i wish you and terry all the best up
28:40
um let's work together and get this
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thing off the rails back on the rails
28:44
get moving and sell some some beds and
28:47
thank you very much for your offer of
28:48
the contest david that's much
28:51
no hundred percent thank you you guys
28:55
you checked everybody uh david
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executive uh director with
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destination northern ontario and owner
29:05
one of the premier operations in this
29:08
lodge 88 uh on the snogi and it you know
29:12
by the way i never had him explain why
29:14
it's called lodge 88 but he didn't
29:15
mention that earlier on
29:16
when he was talking about the rail
29:17
service because it's on mile marker 88.
29:20
but what happens the train stops at mile
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in the middle of nowhere and
29:28
you get out now when all those guys
29:30
brought that beer up on that train that
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just a an unloading of gear that time