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One of Canada's longest-running fishing shows, Fish'n Canada travels from coast to coast in search of trophy fishing opportunities. First started by brothers Angelo and Reno Viola in 1986, The Fish’n Canada Show has been on the air for over 30 years. Today, Angelo is joined by lifelong fishing buddy, Peter Bowman, and the pair continue to travel across Canada educating anglers using the experience they’ve gained over the years
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uh he is the executive director of
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destination north ontario
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but more importantly he is the owner of
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one of the most exquisite
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operations in the country we've said
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this a million times
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it's called lodge 88 and it is truly a
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little slice of heaven this lake is
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is unbelievable for us it has been such
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a lucky lake we come down
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we go to that lodge right there and get
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the best lodge that we've ever been to
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and we stick walleye like this left
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right center a bad day you'll still get
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a couple of these things on a good day
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that's me and he joins us now our good
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friend dave mclaughlin good morning
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david
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afternoon i guess it would be hey how
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are you yeah how are you
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listening and hearing about uh how hard
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it was to make a living uh
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as a tournament fisherman uh try being
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in tourism right now
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yeah no kidding oh my god
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nicely fit yeah that's so true
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are you are you at the lodge yeah i'm at
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the lodge right now so coming to you by
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satellite so if a bird flies over or
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something we might lose our connection
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but
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uh it's been pretty good for the last
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hour so you'll knock on wood
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so so david's lodge is larger to eat on
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this noggy lake tell everybody just to
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quickly where you're
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you know geographically located in the
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lodge state well we're 88 miles west to
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shaplow on the
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canadian pacific railway 3600 miles
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north of wawa
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and 34 air miles southeast of white
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river
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roughly about 200 miles uh north of
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susie marine
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so one of the um one of the exciting
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parts about
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david's operation i mean you could fly
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in obviously that's probably the most
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common but
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but and i don't know whether it's still
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available david you you'll you'll
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correct me everyone but i think one of
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the most uh
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appealing ways to to come and visit you
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is on the rail and uh in our particular
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case the first time we came
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to uh join you um i think we went out of
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uh is it hawk junction uh
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one of the two yeah that train trip
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in on the rail um with the old bud car
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it's first of all it's historical but
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it's part of the
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experience of of northern ontario
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is it still being used yeah still
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running and
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uh you know just a few years ago via
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rail took over the
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operation of the train and uh so they've
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improved their uh on time performance
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and
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i don't know i think i kind of remember
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you guys getting in a little a little
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late in the evening
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and i think you brought a new definition
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to the to the word bud
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car
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yes three times a week out of uh sudbury
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uh or out of white river
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and uh right now uh they're on a reduced
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schedule because of the pandemic uh just
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one train a week but
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still running and we're glad to have it
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let's just uh for a moment pete
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let's just uh before we get on to the
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pandemic and all we had a million things
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to talk to you about
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but uh for a moment let's talk about
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what you just said if i remember
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correctly that wasn't our first time
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visiting you but but i think it might
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have been the second where we brought
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that group of 40
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44 people or 48 people uh into the lodge
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and and only because of the rail service
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because otherwise that trip wouldn't
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have happened how else do you bring such
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a big group of people
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to one spot other than on a train and uh
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we knew pete and i knew we were in
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trouble when we met these guys
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i think it was in sudbury february train
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stations train station
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part of a national contest that we had
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put on
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anyways they the the point is that they
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were all meeting in sudbury and then in
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sudbury we're going to get on the train
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and we're going to come up to lodge 88
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and pete and i knew we were in trouble
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when the
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vehicle started arriving and
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one of the first vehicles that came up
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was a 40-foot motorhome
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hauling a 35-foot trailer
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we thought what the hell is going on
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well the trailer was full of beer
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they had i don't know how many came here
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at that trailer
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we knew we were going to be in trouble
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because they said yeah it's for our
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train trip
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out there i mean we're going to be on
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the train for six hours or so i mean
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we've got to have some some
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beer and they proceeded to unload this
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trailer in one of the trailers on the
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train one of the cars in the train
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and uh
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yeah yeah we should have all had shares
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in lcbo that week
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and yeah and that's another point is we
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went to their cabins that one night
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after seeing all that 100 cases of beer
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whatever
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stupidly number it was well they
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calculated at least
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three two fours uh at two four a day for
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each guy
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24 and and uh uncle i won't say his last
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name uncle would have two beer
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cases of beer per day he already threw
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an extra case if he hat but then we went
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to the
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the cottage that they were in and then
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we got in there and not only is the beer
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they got
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60 ounces of hard boost sitting on the
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table
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you know we get hung over we have a we
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need a little change
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oh my god these guys can drink man yeah
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they were pretty cool i think
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an atv with the empties with deposits
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you'd make a friggin fortune on that
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wouldn't you
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anyway um that's just one of the many
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experiences that uh that lodge 88 has
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supplied
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for us for sure um but let's talk about
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the pandemic situation so so
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how long have you been open now well we
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we've been here since may the 24th it
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was uh you know it was a late year for
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ice so we're a little late coming in
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uh technically you opened since the 13th
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of june is uh
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you know kind of when we got the word
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from the province that uh that we were
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okay to uh to rent cabins and so
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we've had uh people here pretty steady
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through the season except maybe
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the month of july was uh was uh was was
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quiet but
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uh now we've been open for two weeks on
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the full american plan the dining room's
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open
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and nice to see uh you know groups of
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people uh here it's still
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nothing like it would normally be but uh
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it's better than uh
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than than what we thought it would be
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what's your dining room protocol right
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now david do they have to wear masks i
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mean you're not eating obviously but
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what's your uh enlarged protocol there
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seating et cetera well from there from
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yeah from the health unit
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is uh you know in public spaces inside
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uh you know supposed to wear a mask so
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people are wearing a mask if they're
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coming in to to watch tv
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um you know coming in sanitizing your
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hands at the door and then sitting down
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you don't yeah you don't have to wear a
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mask to to eat your your dinner
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no people aren't spending a lot of time
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in the lodge they're spending more time
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in their cabins and of course
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out in the lake and we've had a
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fantastic summer
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have yeah the fishing's been good so far
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well it's been fantastic like uh you
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know you think about uh you know maybe
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that's one of the benefits
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uh if there is a benefit or one of the
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silver linings is you know the fishing
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pressure
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and uh and uh there haven't been a whole
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lot of people on the lake
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a lot of a lot of nice big big fish
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coming in both walleye and northerns
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so you're seeing a noticeable difference
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of the lack of pressure versus
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the results of fishing is it's higher
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you can like actually notice that in one
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single season i i you know i think we're
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seeing it and i think over the longer
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term where we're gonna really uh notice
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it you know like you know we pretty much
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have uh
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you know had uh one year of no no
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fishing pressure on the lake i mean the
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fishing was great
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um but um you know it can only uh help
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right
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yeah yeah now what about a catch and
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release policy for up there is there
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do you guys have a certain number you
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can't keep or a size that you got to
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throw back or is there a large
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uh you know policy yeah so
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you know we throw back uh most of the
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fish right and especially
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you know the bigger ones so we're we're
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on the provincial slot size
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you know uh here on on the lake and
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in the fishing limits uh you know most
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people are
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are keeping the smaller ones to eat and
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and definitely
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uh we we strongly encourage uh you know
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to put the bigger ones back in the water
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for
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for another day right okay now
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yeah cause we ann's and i have obviously
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been to the lodge a few times i've been
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to a lot of lodges and all that and
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and normally at the end of the day
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boats get cleaned and they get re-gassed
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refueled and all that kind of stuff is
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there any extra
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measures now that cobit is you know
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prominent around
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you you have to sanitize a boat how does
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that work at all working out
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well we got about uh a 60-page manual to
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follow
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from uh from from from noto they did a
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lot of work you know i think
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most people if you were doing like the
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the cleaning it's
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um it's not so much in the boats because
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most people come
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you're in the same boat all week you've
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got the same life jackets the same
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equipment so that that's not so
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important but certainly
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to clean them between between guests the
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big thing is in the cabins and uh
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and being able to take out like
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everything comes out of the cabin to get
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done like all the linens like everything
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comes out the dishes everything
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goes through the the dishwasher we're
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only booking half the cabins one week so
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we can do the other half the next week
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but as far as like the general cleaning
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it's it's pretty much what
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people should normally be doing like
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cleaning your doorknobs and light
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switches
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right you know you know lodge were a
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little bit more careful going around
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washing doorknobs and
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and that type of thing a few times a day
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but uh
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people people everyone that's come
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they've all been very good everyone's
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being careful
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you see that people have to realize too
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that of all
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lodges that ange and i have ever been to
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we will say not because david's sitting
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right here with us it is the
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cleanest yeah in any day coleman or no
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cove but it won't
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matter who first got there like ang says
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he's a little bit anal when it comes to
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lodge cleanliness et cetera et cetera we
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could put the word diva
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around pretty much but but when we got
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there he
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he just looked at this place he said ah
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i'm in heaven look at this there's no
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dust in the corner there's no
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the place is already immaculately clean
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so i mean there's probably not a whole
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lot of difference during copen because
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the place is just that good so just to
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let everybody know how clean it always
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has been
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since i think the word neurotic
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okay good stuff justifiably so right
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i'd describe it to people um
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to to let them better understand what
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we're talking about and only people who
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are into
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cleanliness will understand this it is
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extremely difficult
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to clean floors in the corners
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so when you're doing your daily
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maintenance i know we shouldn't be
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talking about this on a fishing show but
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i think it's really cool
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where i associate a lot of you when you
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clean
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corners you know whether you're waxing
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them or cleaning floors
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it is really difficult to get in the
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absolute
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apex of the corner because because
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whatever you do is going to leave a
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round mark
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i'm telling you at lodge 88
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there is not a corner anywhere to be
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found
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that is not clean that's how you tell
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that's the difference between a really
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super clean
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uh place and one that's okay
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way out in the middle of nowhere that's
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the best part
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you know with that with my dad and uh
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you know making a big investment in new
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cabins and stuff
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you know so it's uh it's a lot easier to
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start from brand new than to
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to pick up with something that's you
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know 50 or 60 years old that's for sure
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well tell folks about that there's a bit
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of history here i i mentioned the fact
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that it's two and three generations old
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it's not something that just started
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yesterday but
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but in fact lodge 88 was completely
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rebuilt maybe you can sort of walk us
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through it a bit and give us a bit of a
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history on it
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sure so my grandfather showed up off the
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train with uh
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you know the the same train that we have
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now 60 some years ago
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um with a canoe and uh paddled up the
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lake he got almost uh a full mile
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found a spot and they were back the next
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year they bought the
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plant from the ministry of natural
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resources and came in and started
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building so i think 59 was the first
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year
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uh that they operated and uh you know
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over
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over time you know things uh you know
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standards change
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and uh we shut the property down in the
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late 90s
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and then came back a few years later and
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pretty much knocked everything down
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to rebuild cabins you know with with
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bigger bathrooms and uh you know bigger
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front rooms like the old cabins have
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basically enough room for a table and
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chairs and
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you know maybe a fridge and uh and the
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old bathrooms
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you know like it the they were just so
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small
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that they were you know it was just it
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just wasn't what people would
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be looking for today when they
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when your family first chose is
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how important on a scale of one to ten
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was the fishing
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in that lake in order to build right
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there was it like the oh my god this is
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it we're building because of this
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fishing or how's that
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yeah well i guess you know the story had
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as of my grandfather had to be fairly uh
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vociferous
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and uh and uh really press seminar and i
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think he pressed a few
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uh used a few political connections to
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get the land purchased they really
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didn't want to sell them the property
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uh on this lake they were steering them
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to another one uh but that was the whole
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thing you know he
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he saw this place and uh he he was
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tenacious and
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made sure that he had it so he was able
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to uh to buy five acres uh which at the
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time was unheard of
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um because even now like a lot of the
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the lodges and stuff they're
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under a land use permit and not on deed
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of property so
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uh you know that made it a a lot easier
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in a lot of ways um you know to operate
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uh
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you know because if you're not on deed
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of property how do you get a mortgage
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and that's so
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uh you know kudos to him you know he was
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uh you know he was he came out of the
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army
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and uh you know he uh you could see uh
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you know he put into practice what he
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learned in in the army and
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over in europe in world war ii uh
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the foresight that that was was needed
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to uh who who could have predicted
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what what lodge 88 has turned into today
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and i know we we banter this around all
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the time you know one of the greatest
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operations we think certainly
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uh in northern ontario probably all of
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canada maybe in north america
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and it's become legendary among uh folks
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who want the ultimate walleye fishing
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experience
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let's be honest about it you know that's
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that's really the the meat potatoes
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although you got some great northern's
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pike fishing although there there's an
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opportunical truck fishing although
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although although
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people come to lodge 88 because they
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want an opportunity
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to have at it with walleye and you have
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got some of the most incredible walleye
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fishing
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um that anybody could possibly ever
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experience
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we came up there the first time we shot
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and we shot the entire episode i believe
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i could be wrong but
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if not the entire episode certainly
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three quarters of the episode
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with the lodge in the shot the whole
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time
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i remember that yeah and that was our
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biggest fish in the episode the other
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stuff was a couple of pillars just
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we may want to show the rest of the lake
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we should do something because it all
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looks like it's all taking place
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right in front of david's place exactly
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so we're not going to lie to folks at
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this you know this is the uh
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the trip of a lifetime for everybody
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it's not
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it's not an inexpensive trip you are
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classified as a premium
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uh uh operator there's no doubt about it
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but
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worth it if you're looking for those
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extra things that some of them we've
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just mentioned you know
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the bigger rooms the cleanliness the
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food the food is we won't even get into
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the food
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but it is it is you know legendary yeah
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and now we've also said that the fishing
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is is beyond belief
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so it is worth the premium that one pays
15:57
for that and i
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i only bring this up because i know
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during this
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pandemic and god only knows when we'll
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be clear of it
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um during this pandemic people are
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thinking
16:09
well you know now's a good time to get a
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real deal
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we'll strong-arm those operators into
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giving their stuff away
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and uh and uh we're gonna get the best
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deal and we're gonna tell them we're not
16:20
coming unless you
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you know give it to us for nothing kind
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of thing and and i always say it because
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i've heard
16:25
rumblings to this effect from other
16:27
lodge owners
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and i was very disappointed when i heard
16:30
that because
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you know we as anglers should as adults
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should be able to put two and two
16:37
together and figure out that
16:40
your community the outfitter lodge
16:42
owners resort owners
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guides that whole industry
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is is so severely hit with this pandemic
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we have no idea
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we have absolutely we have no inkling
16:54
of how bad it is in the north and so
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i i want i say that because i want to
16:58
urge people watching us today
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not to be of the mindset that wow this
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is going to be a great opportunity to
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get a real
17:06
deal on a trip rather maybe we need to
17:09
start looking at it
17:10
that this is a great opportunity for us
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as anglers to maybe
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give something back and and maybe
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you know we can kill two birds with one
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stone maybe maybe we can have
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the experience of a lifetime
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um help an industry and help
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families from the north get through this
17:30
pandemic by saying
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you know this year i'm not going to be
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going away obviously i'm not going
17:34
anywhere
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out of the country let alone the
17:36
province maybe i should book my family
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vacation this year
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with places like yours and that's what
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we want to encourage in fact
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we are on the cusp of of um
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unveiling a new area a new place
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on fishingcanada.com that's going to be
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devoted entirely
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to operators and lodges and guides
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and resorts and on it we're going to
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encourage
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folks we're going to incentivize them
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there's no doubt about it
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but we're going to encourage folks to
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support our
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communities in the north our families in
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the north
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our operators are the north and uh and
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maybe spend a little bit of money here
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uh at a time when you know we we need we
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need the perfect excuse
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to give back and there's none better
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than this
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so um i i want to um offer you an
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opportunity
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to put your product on fishingcanada.com
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we want to tell the whole story i want
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you to write the whole
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story what we just spoke about i would
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love for you
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and and i know i'm putting you on the
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spot i would love for you
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to uh maybe maybe donate
18:49
a free trip that we can give away
18:52
somehow
18:52
on fishingcanada.com and i'd also like
18:56
you to consider uh for folks who book
19:00
on fishingcanada.com uh to maybe give
19:03
them something
19:04
for it and i don't know what i'll leave
19:06
that up to you i don't know what that
19:07
would be
19:08
but give them an opportunity to feel
19:10
good about making the right decision
19:12
to come and visit you because we can
19:13
tell them
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i can tell them for sure that it'll be
19:17
the trip of
19:18
a lifetime they will be altered
19:21
for the rest of their life after they
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spent some time at lodge 88
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you need to maybe do something just to
19:29
to push that over the top for them
19:30
sure oh 100
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yeah no thanks uh thanks for the
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opportunity you guys have been so good
19:37
to us over the years
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you know anything anytime you need you
19:40
just let us know and
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and i think a lot of people have trouble
19:44
you know when we're talking about the
19:45
price point is they don't understand
19:47
that the price really reflects the cost
19:49
of doing business in the north
19:51
and remote and remote and you know as
19:54
bad as it is this year like you know my
19:56
brother at the air base like their their
19:57
airplane insurance went up 50
19:59
this spring just 55-0
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and so you know it's uh it's it is
20:06
it you know the costs are high when
20:08
you're everything you do
20:09
involves uh you know float planes but
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yeah i know that that's great and i
20:14
really appreciate it and uh for sure
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yeah we'll sweeten the pot for you
20:19
awesome we'll put something together and
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let you know and let the audience know
20:24
how when and where but um if we just
20:26
move quickly
20:28
to your other uh put on your other hat
20:30
if you will as
20:31
executive director of destination
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northern ontario first of all tell folks
20:35
what that is
20:37
so we're funded through the the ontario
20:39
government and specifically the ministry
20:41
of heritage sport tourism and culture
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industries
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and the only way i can remember that is
20:46
that hst criminal investigation
20:49
um and uh yeah so we're responsible for
20:52
uh developing tourism opportunities
20:54
across northern ontario
20:56
so that's product uh training marketing
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and
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investment and so obviously uh you know
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this year has been tough for us uh
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across the sector but uh i will say um
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you know we we did tour with the
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minister last week five days across the
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north
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and there's some aspects of the industry
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that have come back now certainly
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you know the angling side is continues
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to suffer
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as does uh you know some of the uh you
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know the hotels and restaurants in town
21:23
but along the highways things are busy
21:25
and uh you know things things have come
21:27
back people are touring
21:29
uh you know the the province i mean
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we've got nowhere else to go
21:33
but um you know the big thing for the
21:34
north is the loss of the
21:36
the u.s market and we know why the
21:38
borders closed and
21:39
we hope that uh you know for next spring
21:42
that uh
21:43
things get better uh in the u.s where we
21:45
can you know
21:46
open the border safely but that's a half
21:49
a billion dollar hit
21:51
uh to northern ontario this summer uh
21:53
without the us
21:54
visitors like 500 million dollars to the
21:57
lodges yeah
21:58
oh my god think about that a half a
22:00
billion dollar hit
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just boom one segment
22:05
of business you know that's one segment
22:07
of the so how much money
22:09
is is being hit by the you know my guys
22:13
this is crazy um
22:18
like the north is uh you know the north
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is uh
22:22
you know hard hit here but uh you know
22:24
look at the big cities in in ontario
22:26
like uh toronto
22:27
like downtown toronto right now the
22:29
occupancy in the hotels in downtown
22:30
toronto
22:31
is under eight percent oh my god
22:34
so you know the travel and tourism has
22:36
taken a big hit
22:39
yeah for sure i understand speaking of
22:41
which uh you had
22:42
minister macleod up there last week
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yeah yeah we got to travel uh uh you
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know we started in sudbury went over to
22:49
north bay we got her in the float plane
22:51
uh
22:51
we went paddling out in lake superior um
22:54
you know made it as far as thunder bay
22:56
and
22:56
did some more uh paddling up there at
22:58
fort william
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and uh she did what she's missed and uh
23:03
so anyways the plans are she's coming in
23:04
september to uh to go fishing
23:06
uh for three days so uh we'll we'll see
23:09
if that comes to be but
23:10
uh wonderful wonderful lady um you know
23:13
caring
23:14
um uh you know can't say enough about
23:17
her
23:17
and the support that she's given us over
23:19
the last few months and through the
23:21
pandemic
23:22
or even the the government in general
23:24
like you know for the ministry of
23:25
natural resources
23:26
to come out and um you know for the
23:29
outfitters that are with land use
23:30
permits to be able to stay those fees
23:33
um you know there's outfitters that are
23:35
that that's forty fifty thousand dollars
23:37
that they just don't have this year
23:38
and um you know they're they're doing
23:40
everything they can and i know
23:42
um a lot of people are looking for them
23:44
to do more but
23:45
um you know the need is just so great
23:47
right now there's just
23:48
i just don't think there's enough money
23:50
to uh you know to
23:52
to support people it you know to to what
23:54
they need so
23:56
in a lot of ways uh you know we're like
23:58
everyone we're we're figuring this out
23:59
as we go along
24:01
and all the more reason why we need to
24:03
take matters
24:04
into our own hands when it comes to our
24:06
northern
24:07
uh areas of the province and we need to
24:09
support them because
24:11
because if we don't they won't be there
24:13
and that's why we as
24:15
anglers outdoors people in general need
24:17
to look
24:18
deep down inside and see how we can
24:21
prop this up and and help support you
24:24
guys and
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uh i know we can i know we can make a
24:27
difference
24:28
and it won't be at a cost that we can't
24:31
support
24:32
uh somehow we're going to pull this all
24:34
under the fire i'm sure
24:36
yes and uh and have a great time and
24:39
have a great time to boot and experience
24:41
something exactly
24:42
and the fishing is going to get better
24:44
that's right yeah
24:46
david we've run uh over time but more
24:48
importantly we've taken
24:50
way too much of your time um we
24:53
so uh truly appreciate uh being able to
24:56
call you our friend
24:57
and more importantly appreciate uh the
24:59
job that you've done
25:00
uh in northern ontario we look forward
25:03
to uh
25:04
to being up there with you soon and uh
25:07
who knows uh
25:08
when we're gonna be back on the road but
25:10
we will get back on the road at some
25:12
point trust me
25:13
first year before i'm talking about
25:17
how we can work together to support this
25:19
industry because
25:21
i think times have changed in uh and uh
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yeah i think you guys have some really
25:25
good ideas that
25:26
we'd like to be along there with you
25:28
perfect
25:30
thank you for joining us my friend wait
25:31
wait wait wait wait wait we're gonna do
25:33
a lightning round with mr david remember
25:35
before you're not getting out of that
25:37
now biola
25:45
i forgot so our walking around is just
25:48
quick questions
25:49
if you can give us a really a one-word
25:51
answer or something really basic it's
25:52
just gonna be a few questions that and i
25:54
put together and the reason why i'm
25:55
laughing
25:56
is because i was talking to ange and i
25:57
had some change dave was supposed to be
25:59
on i had chondra's questions
26:00
and then bucky went oh i gotta get some
26:01
buck questions all about fishing and
26:02
then he says what about david you gotta
26:04
leave david up we're gonna do david here
26:06
don't worry
26:10
if you have any or not but uh david
26:12
really quickly
26:13
in one word do quick answers whatever
26:14
you got what is the most
26:16
targeted fish species in northern
26:18
ontario
26:20
walleye i think that's a no-brainer but
26:23
i just wanted to make sure that one
26:25
what is the largest wall
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i'm gonna say there was one um
26:37
that was about 16 pounds caught back in
26:39
the 70s
26:42
oh 16. it's a big
26:46
smallish there's a big fish yeah
26:49
oh my god okay what is the more popular
26:53
method of transportation to lodge 88
26:56
train or plane i'm going to say
26:59
train um by just a little bit okay
27:03
that's interesting i thought it'd be by
27:04
a lot but what is the
27:06
and you might not know this but i'm sure
27:08
you you might have a good idea but what
27:09
is the farthest
27:10
north drive to fishing lodge in ontario
27:14
is there wonderful fishing lodge in
27:17
northern ontario
27:19
i'm going to say probably it's got to be
27:22
up
27:22
around red lake uh up up in that area
27:24
there's some uh
27:25
drive-in drive-in lodges uh or even a
27:28
boat in
27:29
um that that's got to be the furthest
27:31
north and
27:33
you know maybe with ring of fire that'll
27:34
change
27:36
are you assuming you know the answer to
27:38
this no i don't i have no idea
27:40
i think i were there and i believe it's
27:42
pickle lake
27:44
pickle yeah
27:49
okay my final question to david this
27:51
one's a good one okay i like this one
27:53
is there genuine legitimate authentic
27:57
royalty in the blood of the queen of the
27:59
north carol caputo
28:03
i knew angela would you put me on the
28:06
spot
28:09
obviously obviously there's got to be
28:12
something there somewhere
28:17
i'm sure it's there she's gonna hate me
28:20
for throwing that question out there but
28:21
i had it
28:23
she couldn't she's gonna text me and
28:25
tell me i'm an ass again
28:28
for sure oh i should probably text all
28:30
of us on that one
28:33
anyways david uh we appreciate you
28:35
joining us my friend
28:36
uh i wish you and terry all the best up
28:38
there and
28:40
um let's work together and get this
28:41
thing off the rails back on the rails
28:43
and and
28:44
get moving and sell some some beds and
28:47
thank you very much for your offer of
28:48
the contest david that's much
28:50
appreciated so
28:51
no hundred percent thank you you guys
28:53
have a good week
28:55
you checked everybody uh david
28:57
mclaughlin uh
28:58
executive uh director with
29:01
destination northern ontario and owner
29:04
of uh
29:05
one of the premier operations in this
29:07
country for sure
29:08
lodge 88 uh on the snogi and it you know
29:12
by the way i never had him explain why
29:14
it's called lodge 88 but he didn't
29:15
mention that earlier on
29:16
when he was talking about the rail
29:17
service because it's on mile marker 88.
29:20
but what happens the train stops at mile
29:23
marker 88
29:24
in the middle of nowhere and
29:28
you get out now when all those guys
29:30
brought that beer up on that train that
29:32
was quite
29:32
just a an unloading of gear that time
29:35
was that oh my god
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