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Fish'n Canada's Ang and Pete interview World Carp Classic organizer Ross Honey. Ross discusses how huge Carp fishing is in the UK and the trials and tribulations of trying to organize the world's largest Carp event during a pandemic. If you haven't heard of the World Carp Classic or aren't fond of Carp fishing you NEED to check out this interview.
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and uh speaking of carp and because we have royalty in the house tonight
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yeah mate yeah exactly uh let's uh not take any more time
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uh our next guest or first guest i guess we could call is a man by the name of ross honey now
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we've had ross on the radio program several times we in fact we've worked with ross live
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both in the uk and in north america uh he um is the owner of angling spirit
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in hampshire england uk he organizes and stages international angling events
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all around europe and is closing in on north america i'm sure he'll have a thing or two to say about that he is the
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founder and owner of the world carp classic tournament which started in 1998
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arguably the largest international maybe global angling event on the planet
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welcome to the program ross how are you buddy well thank you very much it's great to see you guys again it's
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uh it's always a pleasure to to be in your company both uh both on stream here and uh personally as
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as we've been there over the years thank you sir now really quick before angel is is the world carp classic the biggest
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fishing event in the world that you know about ross that'd be a great question it's certainly the longest running uh
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cart fishing event event of its kind in the world i mean i i set up in 1998 and
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we've had over 45 countries participate in the event today and in fact the event we've just run uh
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we had 103 countries um that actually clicked on and uh we're following it so 103 countries
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from around the world the reason i keep saying the biggest because i've looked into it and there's
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no other fishing event that draws so many countries to participate i mean there's
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uh bill fishing events uh that's what i was thinking it's bill fishing you know what i mean but but not even no they're not that big so
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uh and in terms of the scope of the event one only needs to see one one time in
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their life to know if there's anything bigger man oh man it's yeah it's just show it
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where it is because it would be pretty impressive it was bigger the parade alone like that parade alone
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that they have at the world cup it's like it's unreal you know what we did this year is actually really
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cool normally we'd have um the the parade with everybody holding their flags we have like three or four hundred people holding their national
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flags and everything that's always quite a grand very kind of uh exciting moment because everybody's
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very proud of their countries that they're representing but um because of kobe this year we had to think slightly outside
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the box and obviously make sure that social distancing was respected so what we did this year just to be
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different to make sure the flag parade did take place we did it in the cars so all the teams
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were actually in their cars we had anglers on top of the cars they had inflatable boats and
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flags going everywhere so you can imagine like 150 cars going down with all these flags
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it was just amazing honking the horns and toothing and it was really spectacular so
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we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves um in that i want to talk to you about
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leading up to this year's event i mean obviously the rest of the world
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for the most part has gone into get down regarding events especially events where
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you're drawing more than 50 people talk to us about the process what uh
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what how did you navigate through this this crazy period that we're having uh
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before you had the event well to be frank i mean as i said earlier on this is probably one of the
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hardest events we've actually uh staged on so many different levels um because
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in the first instance we're running an event uh in the middle of a nature reserve uh in france um it's in a
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different country to the one we currently live in um at the time when we had uh when the event was uh was
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launched we had just under 30 countries that were due to participate literally ranging from
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uh from canada uh right the way through to australia new zealand south africa
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russia ukraine um you name it literally the whole world was included in this um
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and obviously with with coburn the challenges we ran into there we had to knock that back so all the
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countries were that were due to travel long haul um that they they've their places have
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been secured in the 2021 event so we we effectively had the european countries there but we had 18 countries
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represented with uh with over 300 english competing um
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but we didn't have a a book that said you can do this and you can't do that um
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there was no there were no real guidelines so we had to set about actually establishing
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the the covid guidelines that that we were to apply and to incorporate for the world cup
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classic this year and that that turned out to be a 60-page document with with everything literally
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going from the the the registration process uh when people arrived where the babies were
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where they had had to get it get the campsite set up and then right way through to
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the opening parade uh the peg draw how that was to be done
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and we did that so again to ensure everybody was in their bubble in their in their group uh anglers for the for
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the for the peg draw they they were actually in their cars so we did that live
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so i had two people on stage um so drawing the peg i'd then read it out
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they would then go and go and place it on the uh on the the chart to to reaffirm that
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and then we go through that process and then ordinarily on the sunday which is when
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we do the peg draw anglers would stay around and then still party on sunday evening
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but what we did this year is we then took anglers directly to their pegs so you can imagine the logistics of
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moving we've got out of the uh and of the 106 pegs we've got that we
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use for the competition uh probably 65 percent of those require anglers to be transported with all their
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equipment to islands um and different places around the lake it's a huge lake that we use
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so the logistics in that all had to be taken into account to make sure the cobid kobid
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rules were fully applied for that so then having of course got the anglers to the pegs
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then the competition starts then the fish start to get caught so even in terms of how the whole
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weighing process of how the fish are weighed uh who touches what
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and then to make sure that anglers had to maintain their masks on at all times um if there were teams of three even if
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with within the bubble that they had for the photograph so it was really really strictly applied
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and then then subsequently the angler that had caught the fish the other two anglers went away and then
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they were able to take the mask off and have the trophy shop with the fish prior to it being released they then had
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to put their mask back on and then then go back uh for sure so it
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really we've really had to take this the nth degree to make sure that you know this is this
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has been properly done at a time where where this event was in
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fact going to be cancelled uh
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actually yeah i mean quite on quite a few occasions and the reason for that being is the easiest thing for me to have done i said guys
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and we're not running it this year we'll run it next year we'll wait for kobe to pass
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but i i personally took the view that the desire was such so overwhelming from the anglers that
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want to compete to be part of this special occasion that um you know it it made me very determined
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that if we had the ability to put it on and we could do it safely then we should do and and to lead again
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and pioneer a way forward so look okay this is how we do this this is how we
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can run an event with covid um still uh still around and and but to
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do it responsibly and safely did they did anybody use it from europe did anybody fly in to
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the area or they all drive is it very easy to have everybody uh in cars to get there um the
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the majority of people drove um there were a couple of people that flew and then hired cars but
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but the majority of people drove um this uh this year
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having been involved in in the things that you do ross they they're they're so
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they're so social i mean the whole thing about carp fishing about the world uh carp
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cup the the whole everything is it just oozes with camaraderie and kinship
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and fellowship and and and i can't even imagine i can't even imagine how you pull this
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thing off by having social distancing i mean that to me is just
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wow even to the extent one of the things we pride ourselves with is we have an
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opening banquet and it is a proper with wonderful food and everything there
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and this year we we did literally everything outside everything was done outside the whole
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process of all this has been been phenomenal we've got written here the first prize
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was where do we see it and it was 150 and a half 162.5 pounds for three fish is that
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correct three fish yeah oh my god like like what is this lake capable of
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producing is that was the biggest fish in that bag or was it a was there another team that had the biggest fish no no no in fact that those
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guys didn't actually catch the biggest fish the biggest fish that was caught was caught from a totally different part of the lake as well and that was 29.3
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kilos which actually by the way i think i've got a calculator here so let me do a quick bit of mathematics so
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29.3 times 2.2 64. yeah 65 pounds oh my
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god that was that was one fish and there are fish there are fish in
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this lake over 70 pounds carp so anybody that thinks that
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catching carp isn't a sport fish i can tell you hang on to one of them and you just hang
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on i tell you you could you could connect a couple of water skis behind it and you're all was that uh are they mostly mirror carp
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there ross or are they commons or both they're like that big a fish is that uh what species is that that that's that
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one was a mirror um there are common carp in the lake um but they're also leather carp
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and linears as well there's a there's a 65 pound linear in that lake which is a perfect scale
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pattern right the way down the the middle is a perfect linear so there's a huge fridge in there
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you know you talk about sport fish here here in this part of the world um it's predominantly common although we
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do have some mirror but but our fish are insane these these
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wild fish that we have here they're insane you get even a a 10 pounder on the line here
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it rivals just about any sport fishing that we have
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of of speed strength these things jump they spend more time out of the water than they do in the water during
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the fight it's they're insane just a great fishery and that's why you know that's why we've been fighting
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pete and i've been fighting for for years now to get people to recognize the fact that
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yeah yeah maybe the perception was that at one point that this was a a a we'll call it a garbage fish
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because that's kind of the label that it had yeah but that was a long time ago and things have evolved and changed and this
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this fish needs to be elevated to to the level that it deserves because as
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a matter of fact in our in our regulations ross and the fishing regulations just not only is it not a game fish then
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there's no limit if you were to catch them you could catch 100 200 if you wanted kill them if you want to but they also have a bowl fishing season
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for them that's in right what any fishing season we have for carter bow and arrow right like figure that one out like
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that's just you i mean over there in europe you guys would go insane if you saw that
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when you look at the the fish welfare and best practice angling that that we apply as part of the rules you can get
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banned from life if you mistreat the carp over here uh within the competition that we're
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running um yeah we've got the the flotation mats that they sit on i mean you know when you think that even
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over here you know some of these carp are named they've got a proper yeah they've got a name uh they get kissed and everything they get
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put back and they just it's it's different you know it is very different
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i don't think i've ever asked you this um in the number of times that we've worked together and i've interviewed
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you um where did this all start for you was it was it just from the sheer
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love of the sport or did it start as a business like where did this whole
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carp empire come from that's that's a really good question well i mean the the answer to that is
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not not exactly a short one but uh i'll try and try and keep it that way um
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in 1997 the end of 97 98 i've been working for a company which
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is a shipping company called brittany ferries uh with ships going between england and france and over to
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khan and the day landing beaches and stuff over there and i left brittany ferries um to set up
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my own business and the two things i loved to do was play golf and go fishing and i i was involved in the uh in the
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marketing the development side of of brittany ferries and developed a golf program for them so
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when i left i thought well okay what am i going to do i'm going to set up a fishing event and
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a golf event that's what i've got so i looked around i thought well look
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there's uh i i my my i always like to have ideas and not just think about them but to
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actually do them but um so i thought right golf tournament i want to set up the world's largest golf
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tournament of its kind so um so what actually is that so i set up a club tournament called the
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international pairs and in uh in a three year period took it from it
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the original exception inception very much at the same time setting up the world cup classic um and
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i took that from its uh the original idea to having 43 countries participate in it
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with world finals in in scotland the carnoustie glen eagles all the main championship courses and
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over 3 000 golf course 3 000 events a year but my target was to get a million
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to get a million golfers to physically play in that tournament and that took me just over three years
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to achieve so you can imagine going around to these wonderful five-star golf courses some of
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the best golf course in the planet um and i'd set up a fishing event as
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well so people are asking what on earth you setting up a fishing event and um but the first one i set up was
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one by which i wasn't quite sure which way to go in terms of events so i thought right i'll organize
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a general fishing event so i took 140 people to france um i knew the lakes over there anyway
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there's pleasure fishing there's um match fishing you know where they're all there with the match rods and stuff um
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then uh specimen angling and and what a specimen in england
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well it's for big fish like you know they're targeting big fish okay so off i trotted over to france i
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remember it like it was yesterday it was blowing again like a huge i was there on my own and i
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had 140 people so i i stood by the fence the gates right you are okay who are you you are a
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pleasure angler right you go over there okay your hotel's there are you are matt tangler match anglers
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over there and anyway all the match hangs we're all lined up and stuff like this man all right you go over
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there that's fine you don't find simple nutrition we'll see in a couple of days so anyway
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hilarious as the wind was playing straight in the match fisherman's faces they might well have been fishing in the
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car park they couldn't even keep them
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hilarious the pleasure anglers moan like flipping hell because their hotel was a bit too far from the
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lake and it was windy it was wet oh dear it was a nightmare
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there were these guys called specimen anglers and um that somebody said oh we heard somebody's caught a caught a fish over
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there oh great exactly i went around to see them and they were they had taken their own tents and stuff
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they didn't require accommodation they fed themselves they were all happy really pleasant people whereas the other
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guys were a little bit if and there weren't everybody happy by my organization
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together and i had a letter from uh from from one of the guys that had been on the uh this fishing trip i'd organized
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and he said look ross it's a really really good event thoroughly enjoyed it and myself and the other
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the other specimen anglers had a really good time we caught a nice cop you know one of us caught a carp you
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know but but when you organize the next event
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mm-hmm about it and i had a phone call as well i thought you know what so i looked
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around carp carp carpenter that's yeah it definitely was a car that's fine what carp events are there
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around looked and there weren't any so i thought you know what i'm i'm going to organize
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a world championship for carp fishing wow in 1998
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i got the map out at home and i looked at the map and looked at look to looked in france well there's a big blue
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bit that's a lake let me let me drive to that lake and see what it's like
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so that's exactly what i did drove to the lake said uh unfortunately i speak french so i said
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them hello my name is ross honey i i wanted to organize a world championship cart fishing event here
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and they looked at me like i had three heads you know like what this is my own about carp fishing event
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yeah i'm gonna get people from all over the world to come here and do this and do that and yeah it's fine so anyway off i went
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back to the uk having having made contact this lake and maintain contact with them
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and set about setting up the walk art classic and um i managed to convince rover
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to to give me a car to give away as a prize which in 1998 there was no other
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competition in the world of cartfield fishing um full stop in in europe anyway
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that that had given a car away as a prize nedley for carp fishing so um so that that's what happened and
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we got in the first year we had 146 anglers compete um and it was it was incredible to see
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the buzz and the emotion and i knew it was something special that we'd found and
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uh so from that i continue to develop that over the years where we are today what a great story
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man it's funny because you can ask any organizer of events like that and
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they're they they all started much like like you did you know it was one of those things hey you know what
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why not do it and next thing you know it just blossoms of course today today
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it's it's the holy grail like if you're into carp fishing and you're not uh fishing the world carp
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classic then you're really not into car fishing and that's what it's become it's it's
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it's unbelievable you think about our little event fishing canada uh carp cup you know what i mean
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you have to win that before you get a chance to go over and fish ross's event ours is the first of its kind here too
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but there are some you know there's some small tournaments around all that stuff but i mean you got to get there you have to
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earn your way to the to the big show for sure and as we know from uh the last event we held that it's not
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easy because it's it goes right down to the wire the last you know five minutes
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ounces even though they're weighing hundreds of pounds of fish it's down to the last ounce right it's i would love to have uh
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one of our canadian teams go over there even if they didn't win i'd like to have our guys
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weigh in three fish for 165 pounds just to see if we can go back to the stories they'd say because that would be incredible to hear
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you know what i mean it'll be so long ross tell us about the winning team uh where are they from and
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uh what sort of experience that they have are they regulars on the tour yeah well the the team this year from uh
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actually won they're from poland um and uh but what was quite remarkable about them
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is they caught two fish in the first night within five minutes of each other
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um and but the size of those fish were huge um so they they took a lead on day one
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and they then caught the rules that we've got and we count the three biggest fish so even if you catch 20 fish it's only
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the combined weight of the three biggest ones that count so they then caught the third fish which then took them right up to the top of
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the leaderboard but given the rules of this competition i introduced uh just over seven years ago
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where it is the three biggest fish that count what then happened was the other teams were catching catching
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catching closely and within 24 hours to go there was another team that caught
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exactly exactly the same weight the same gram it was exactly the same
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way so so for the last 24 hours of the competition this year they had exactly the same weight so the
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team in the lead were like they were to see the nerves they had it was just
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sensational so right at the end of the event so of course uh i traditionally i will
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go up and i will finish the event from the the unofficial winners peg
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richard polls so that's uh that's where they were so i went up to unofficially announced
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and they got excited they jumped in the water and all the good and grace oh great but
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literally the rule that we've got is if a fish is hooked um up until uh before the end of the
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event they have 20 minutes to land it so from eight o'clock in the morning which is when we finish the event until
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20 past eight if anybody's hooked to fish they have those 20 minutes to land it
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after i've just done all this great excitement congratulations guys
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ross there are four fish that are that have been called within five to ten
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minutes to go so they are they're in the process of landing them so please
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make sure the guys know it they are they're the unofficial winners anybody get this get this an absolute
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climax the whole thing the first report of the first fish that came in was 28.3 kilos the second biggest fish
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in the entire competition just over 60 pounds now that one fish depending on who had caught it could
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have meant somebody completely different had won the event somebody completely different and um
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i'd never been so relieved that the person that caught that one it was their first fish
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just brilliant really really really good great way to finish though that is pretty awesome on the 19th of
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october and the the tv highlights will be released um so you'll be able to see that and uh
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everybody's gonna have a look at that but you'll see the drama and you see how big these fish are yeah and the excitement you'll see the
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parade and and what then happened just to cap this thing off in 22 years of running the
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event we had 40 to 50 mile an hour winds blow at the end of the event bear in mind we
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had to get nearly a hundred people back to back to shore with these rubber boats inflatable boats
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piled high wow my navigation field we've already pushed the limit
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we had the delayed prize giving have to say but um that probably added to the whole thing
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right i mean that could just magic 40 40 kilometer winds and and yeah
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i i think it would kind of add to the whole the whole ending i think yeah yeah yeah great yeah and then i was freezing
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cold i was wet and
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that was not to change uh speeds here but but i i wanted to ask
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you i know that uh prior to the pandemic prior to cancellations of a pile of different
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events in the fishing industry um you had been working on this thing called predator fishing
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yeah in the u.s especially if i understand correctly um has this this uh kobit 19
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pushed all of that back like what what has it done to that yeah folks what it is yeah what it is
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is um again um linking the knowledge i've got a golf um the the biggest thing there is in
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golf is the ryder cup where usa and north america take on europe and the rest of the world
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and um in 2014 um i set out set my mind up to to create the the
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angling equivalent of that by which you know a legitimate usa team and north american team took on
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the uh europe and the rest of the world team in in a head-to-head event so initially i created the european
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structure which is now firmly in place and we did the launch event um in
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america uh just our fry cars um and the event itself is called the angling supercar
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so that's that's the event but of course the location we were we used and we were due to use for this
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year i was in florida uh at a big lake town in kissimmee
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and that is right in the middle of where you know it's it's horrendous at the moment for um
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so unfortunately and not only did we not run the the first full-blown uh hanging super
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cup event and it's uh in its full um full state uh we had to postpone it
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and 2021 is looking exactly the same there's no point in us trying to you
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know i like to take on a challenge um you know and i'm not one to to to
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turn away from uh trying to make things happen but um this is just it's too much and uh so yeah so i mean i
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think the earliest we could do that would be 20 22. hmm
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well not possible that's a good thing obviously right safety first yeah absolutely um
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any concerns about uh about the event that you just held uh was are you testing are
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any competitors testing uh for covid afterwards post event or or is that just sort of done now it's
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behind us and we move on no not at all one of the precautions that we took
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um not only did we have one of the the world's leading coveted doctors on 24-hour standby
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and we had the hospital in verdun which is right near where the the event took place um they were they
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were ready uh to receive people we had temperature testing of everybody throughout the
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event and we sent um the uh three different media um that have been there beginning the
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event and going around and seeing different people filming um as they had been we sent them to the
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hospital and to get tested and that was done on the friday uh friday afternoon um prior to the
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event finishing on saturday morning and they all came back tested negative so so there were there was that level of
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detail that we put into to this and and uh and making sure that if anybody
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um up to another two or three more days um was it became unwell that that we should
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be notified immediately and all the proportions are in place thereafter good for you any advice to any uh
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would-be promoters of events uh any advice that you can give them moving forward as we wait or
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wade through this this dark uh
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history well i think the thing is uh to run events and uh run fishing
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events is definitely doable um without a shadow of a doubt but you need to make sure all the
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different things are strictly applied um and do everything outdoors we didn't do anything indoors we had
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phenomenal sports halls that we normally decorate up and facilities we didn't do any of that at all so by by
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making sure the events are run and all the registration the whole processes are
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done outside and that's certainly a big step forward and to make sure people do comply and zero
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tolerance if people don't comply not only are they liable to mess it up for themselves and their families
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but for everybody else there so that zero tolerance is required good stuff
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well done to be congratulated my friend uh al all the previous events were
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outstanding but to actually pull one off during these times man hats off to you
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a great job and uh only one guy i know could have done it and that's uh ross
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honey so uh good work my friend uh i look forward to uh
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at some point anyway it's gotta happen we gotta be able to get together again certainly like to think that we uh we're
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not done breaking bread oh absolutely enough and i'll tell you what i really want to get something
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really good going on going on in canada so uh so i'm this has held us back a little bit but
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it hasn't certainly certainly hasn't stopped us so uh far from it we're uh we are very excited about actually uh
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coming across to canada and doing something special over there with you guys yes for those of you who might not know
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um we're working with ross to see if we can't get some regulations
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regulations changed in regards to the number of rods that are being used for carp fishing and and and you know every
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time we take about three or four steps forward there's a couple back it's been going on for about five six
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years now but anyways we will uh endeavor to uh keep up the good fight my
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friend and uh we'll keep you notified looking forward to that day happening and looking forward to seeing more of this
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great uh carp fishing taking place in uh in europe uh ross tell uh folks where they can get
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more information if they want to watch some of the stuff if they can get more information on your association
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well if they go to the worldcardclassic.com website so worldcardclassic.com
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um and our indeed hanging spirit either those will take you through to uh
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uh to where you can find out more so facebook instagram youtube all those channels
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there and there's loads of information and you know what you can google it google world cup
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all right go warm up we'll talk to you soon okay you take care keep safe guys and uh
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looking forward to seeing you as soon as possible all right guys take care bye for now
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bye bye uh ross honey uh he is the owner uh promoter founder of the world carp
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classic tournament which as i've said before is the biggest deal on the planet i mean it smells like
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nothing right from to us to the canadian supposedly that's carp fishing whoa wait till it comes out or even look at
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the old events wait do you see it on t on your uh computer screen or your ipad or something it's unreal
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