The Man Behind the Scenes | Outdoor Journal Radio ep. 108

Name: The Man Behind the Scenes | Outdoor Journal Radio ep. 108
Uploaded: 2025-03-24T17:51:34+00:00
Duration: 1 h 28 min 22 s

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and now another exciting episode in The Adventures of Outdoor Journal
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radio welcome to the show everybody and how exciting today's program is going to
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be on so many levels you're pumped aren't you you're first of all there's a couple of
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stories that I'm just absolutely dying to uh chew on here in a moment but more
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importantly a very special friend of ours is going to be on the program a little later on he was also a
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instrumental in the products that we know today as the fishing Canada show as
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well as Outdoor Journal uh television and Outdoor Journal radio come on now
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and now he comes full circle he's going to be a guest on Outdoor Journal radio the podcast give me a hell and if you
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and if you're a fan of Roland Martin Show he even works on Roland Martin's TI fishing show not only does he work on that show I dare he is that
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show uh big name and and in our industry as far as fishing shows outdoor shows
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and a very good close personal friend of ours so we're excited as you can tell he's coming on uh but there's so much in
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this show we're going to need a two-hour version two and a half hour version of this for sure today uh so we'll blow
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right through the and and by the way our guest just for people to wait Our Guest has got some very interesting uh new
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world uh news news in in tourism and and yeah just in tourism for fishermen for
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hunters for families for everybody which is the main reason he's on the show today he's promoting a new business of
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his and and I think you're all going to be super excited about it and IDE it's such a great uh idea that's way overdue
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way overdue as far as I'm concerned uh before we get to any of that I want to remind everybody fishing Canada uh
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episodes the new ones are on TV as we say right now uh season 38 not sure what
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episode we're on in terms of numbers cuz it's all a big blur to us yes uh but you do want to make sure you catch them
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while they they fresh so later on in the year when you're saying when's the new shows coming on we don't have to say
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well the they they aired already what are you waiting for anyway it's all happening on global television network
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coast to coast to coast 8:00 a.m. except on the Left Coast uh 10:30
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a.m. there uh of course once they're done with uh the global preview they or
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debut each week they go on Sportsman's channel uh in Canada and wfn World
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Fishing Network in the US uh look for times in your particular
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location for those of you especially South of the Border uh you can find out we air four times a week on wfn so if
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you don't catch the first one you got three other uh opportunities before the new episode uh comes up and then once
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that happens that episode goes on YouTube following Monday after every the
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Monday after the Saturday like that and then the article for that will all come
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out on Tuesday on fishing canon.com too so hot spot on Wednesday and hot spot on W sorry I forgot about that there you go
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are you serious so the new series new series I got a a text from U from Chris hawkley are budy Chris he says new show
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he's trying to figure out because everybody's talking about this new show there's a new look to it there's a new feel to it there's something different about but they can't really tell right
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so he throws these things out he says more drone work including in the boat he's he's pretty well right about you
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know but maybe not so much in the boat but yeah lensa lens change in some shots
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is that do you use a different lens yes he got that right 24 frames per second for cinematic look maybe wow no okay
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couple of scripting changes uh am I warm on any of these Chris you're pretty much on on a lot of them buddy just to let
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you know so good eye good eye for seeing it so people are noticing the new look of our our show and uh and we're happy
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that they are yeah not to take up a whole lot of time on this because we do want to get on to with the show but uh
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we pride ourselves in not being happy at any point with what we produce and what I mean by that is that we're continually
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looking for way to to up the ante to to change the game to whatever you want to
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call it we're we never sit back on our Laurels uh although some people might I
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mean I think the fishing Canada show has accomplished more than any anybody in the industry would have ever dreamed of
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um so it's pretty easy sometimes to get into that bit of a lull but we don't here uh every year we try and have at
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least one or two items that are totally new and this year I think uh we kind of
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Hit the Pinnacle it's a nice feel to the show we all we're all very proud of it for sure from you know start to finish
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so if you haven't caught it uh just tune in to global television network Saturday mornings for those of you in Canada uh
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in the US once again look for uh the airings in your local uh listing on wfn
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and Sportsman's Channel as well come on now all right uh listener feedback Mr
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Bowman what do we got listener feedback from real spelled reel efficient real real relaxing via Apple podcasts love
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the banner between you two uh also enjoy the Q&A sessions I would like to hear more stories on Manitoba only because
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I'm from that Province and P.S I'm also a party Marty fan ah yes party Marty
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finally somebody else I'm not the only insane person on the planet uh party Marty for those of you who don't know is
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a a a guy who just basically teaches you how to play guitar songs not music uh
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not learning anything about music he just has a guitar and he sits there and he shows you how to play a simple
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version of these really iconic songs ones that are really difficult you know Stairway to Heaven and and all of these
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oh he does all and he does them in like three or four everything he does is g c
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and d nice he throws in the odd F have you ever heard rockand does he do
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rockand police anything really I'm telling you I got to see that one that's got the craziest cords in reality and he
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and he he doesn't he tells you right off the bat you know this is not uh Talent here this is breaking it down as simple
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as you can get it but if you want to uh uh play these songs in your group or at
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a party that's why he calls himself Marty party party Marty you got to check it out so anyways um we're way off topic
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already real relaxing so the Q&A uh that means he's listening right yeah for sure
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real relaxing means he's listening because he knows you're a fan so real relaxing the truth of the matter is we haven't done a lot in man TOA here's
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what happens in this industry here's it's very simple and um I don't know
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whether we've come clean in the past or not but we'll come clean now oh my one
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oh my thank you uh part of the business model in not
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just ours but all television fishing shows is that uh you have to figure out
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how to monetize each and every episode a lot of our episodes are monetized by a jurisdiction
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meaning that a province or a tourism group or a Economic Development uh
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office somewhere says hey we got to have the fishing Canada guys here because it seems like when they come and shoot an
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episode here things happen right and so there was a point in our lives where
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Manitoba wanted it all and for a number of years we were shooting at Manitoba it
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seemed like every second episode uh we were depicting uh scenes and locations
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in Manitoba and then the some of the other provinces started looking at it and saying hey wait a minute how can we
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get on board too and of course Ontario was one that comes to mind BC uh now uh New Brunswick and Nova Scotia Newland
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and so it's very cyclical what's going to happen event and Manitoba by the way kind of backed off at that point yeah
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there was a point they just sort of backed right off and never came back do you remember the last time we worked with them who their um guy was Brad or
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something some Brad guy Maximus million yeah Ma million Max Maximus million was
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his name wow and he worked for uh travel uh Manitoba yeah and anyways it's too
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bad we got to get back there I mean we'd love to get back there sure man great problem for for great fishing there's no doubt about it so but that's the long
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and short of it we just have not had a relationship and not only have we not had but you know there's a finite amount
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of episodes that we can produce over the course of the season and when they're all booked with other other areas and
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provinces then obviously there's no room for anybody else so if you're listening Manitoba if you're listening and you're
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from Manitoba and need to have Manitoba back in the game reach out to us come on
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now well actually real why don't you uh real relax and why don't you contact
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your Manitoba tourism board or whoever is in charge these days there and tell
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them hey it's high time we had the fishing Canada boys back in town we'll come back for sure people very quickly
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people are always asking ah you guys have so many Ontario shows now Ontario well Ontario is one of our partners they
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decided to partner up with us they're smart so there you go it's an explanation uh the podcast Network a lot
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of people may not be aware of the fact that this very show Outdoor Journal Radio podcast is also a network and
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underneath that network uh or within that Network we have a number of titles one of those titles is this one that you
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see behind me Under The Canopy by our good friend Jerry wallet former minister
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of Natural Resources here in Ontario actually and then he got into this whole uh chagga and uh fungi and all of these
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great organic items that are available to us out in nature and you got into identifying them all and uh and and
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whatnot and we brought them on as a host for a podcast that's doing extremely well uh this uh week or this month or
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whatever the case may be uh what we're highlighting right I never know it's always uncomfortable every week every M
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comes out so every week apparently every week now and it's actually every day we have a different one going on yeah every
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day with a different title but anyways this week we're highlighting um the podcast uh uh about maple syrup episode
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number 30 for Jerry Y is all about maple syrup and who doesn't like maple syrup I
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love I I love good maple syrup don't be fooled Jerry's going to be talking about Good maple syrup don't buy that dunk
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that you see in the in the grocery stores for $4 a bottle or something like that spend the bucks on good maple syrup
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so money pure maple syrup yeah it's going to cost you for sure it's like wine it's you get what you pay for you
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pay for right those very similar to Wine because wine uh most of the good wines
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are either first run or second press wines and then when you get into the cheap wines they're third fourth and
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even fifth runs of line like that old triple xx and 410 we used to drink in high school but back in the day not that
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I did that but it's episode 30 Under The Canopy
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maple syrup it's on as we speak that's interesting stuff you know how where to and how to M tap maple trees stuff like
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that that's interesting it's an art the news Mr Bowman oh here's a good one here
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this is finally we're getting a little bit of um penalty here listen to this Chinook poachers find
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$96,000 whoa here in Canada in Canada little bit further west than us two commercial Fishers are on the hook for
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nearly $100,000 after selling almost twice their legal limit of shinuk salmon in the summer of 2018 on two separate
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occasions Adam Monroe and his Skipper celes LEC offloaded hundreds more fish
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for sale in Prince rert BC that's Prince ruper BC they they appealed the original
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judgments against them uh but the Supreme Court Justice Miriam mainsville
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dismissed the appeal and this is good it goes on this is getting pretty good she says she was not convinced by their
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arguments including attempts to use the French language version of the Fisheries
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act and a debate over translation to justify their actions no hang on hang on for one of the accused hang on let me
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just see he's not the skipper though one of the accused is Adam Moore monroe or
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Monroe Adam Monroe so now I could understand maybe how Silas L might might
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try and attempt to use the French language ACH name version so but the
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other guy he doesn't have a league to stand on he's not the skipper right he just I don't know uh I'm not sure what's
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going on I don't know the rules I'm just pulling in the fish for Miss LEC that's I wonder what it was in the French
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language that made that uh well obviously you you we went and went through it with a fine tooth comb to try
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and get away from these $96,000 with the fines you know what I mean he he du deep into into the into the French version of
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the Fisheries act it doesn't really say how much weight they had eh how much they got caught with double did it say
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double Dean was it double it was double whatever it was double whatever their quota would been I'm assuming these this
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is a commercial license that they're working on right so whatever they would normally have available to them uh under
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their commercial license they were double so it wasn't even a case where you say how did that extra fish get I
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got caught one time for that by the way how did that extra yeah how'd that extra fish get caught get get up there in the
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Nets no this is double so you know some of these licenses would have 45,000 lb I
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was going to say at a $96,000 fine you're talking thousands of pounds over right probably you know just a guess but
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probably anyways uh uh justice Miriam Masonville said uh uh uh uh no you
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didn't um so the fact that you may or may not UND have understood
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the way the Act was written and you interpreted in a different language it does not uh just and besides how do you
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interpret twice the weight I mean I can understand a few pound say I I
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misunderstood we're talking twice the weight yeah there's obviously in any Fisheries act if you look at all when we
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go to our uh rules and regulations here in Ontario we see you are allowed six
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fish with your full license you're allowed four or two with your conservation it's very explicit as to
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numbers now that's not the numbers these guys are working as far as small numbers compared to big numbers doesn't matter it's written in the in these on paper
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it's written right I will guarantee you $96,000 later let's call it $100,000
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just for the sake of arguing $100,000 later I think they Now understand the
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language clearly wonder if there was did you hear Dean if there was anything else the boats taken away anything the
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license is taken away for 5 years and stuff it has to be well I think their
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license would have been taken it would have been taken right this happened in 2018 I can't believe it took that long
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anyways oh wow but they've probably been are ridiculously backed up R
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ridiculously backed up and this is Case in point right the jails everything the jails are
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overfilled anyways I don't think there's uh any uh need to worry about
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misinterpreting anything now by these two gentlemen their negligence and lack of due diligence is what they got
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charged with so yeah good on you madam Justice to get this thing right this
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week's fan question comes to us from Randy Jones in Alberta Canada we got Alberta and we got Manitoba today holy
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look at us go kid uh Randy submitted via email that would be info@ fishing
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canada.com info fishing canada.com come on now and uh Randy's query is what is
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the best each of you individually and as a team have done
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in a fishing tournament in terms of placing and prize so I'm going to go
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with I don't want to have to go through 10 or 12 or 15 years of Tournament
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Fishing so I'm going to assume you want highlights from our fishing tournament careers both on our own and when we were
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together that's the way we're going to read it yeah do you want to lead lead the way um yeah on my on my own my biggest
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payout was a second in the Canadian classic and I I hate talking about it because he wanted first and I had the
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fish on for first and blah blah blah you should have had first damn it so I got I I one back way back then was like 10 15
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grand or something which was a nice prize um for sure but it was certainly wasn't the top prize cuz the top prize
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was like 70 grand with all that kind of stuff but the when I combined that one so when an and I met before that I fish
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with Mike buris and Mike and I in all of our tournaments including the classics like that one in the second place we
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would split we would split even on everything um etc etc so Mikey won the
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classic I think a couple years after that and he won uh a boat motor trailer and 10 grand or whatever I got so I got
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a truck out of that deal so that was a pretty good uh that was a pretty good prize payout for that for individual but that's about the highest I've ever where
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was that that classic was in Kingston and the one got second was in Midland I
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remember that cuz you should have won that Midland oh dude I I talked about somebody the other day I still see the
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fish that's I had a three and a half pounder I see him coming through Clear Water large mouth I had a jig and it
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just he opened his mouth and it just my jig just come flying back at me and I said oh my God that thing just cost me
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about 60 Grand and sure as I got back and it cost me about 60 Grand it's funny cuz back then of course we we were
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fishing against each other on a weekly basis but you know there was a different camaraderie back then between Anglers
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and and when that happened I think we all
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collectively went oh my God cuz of there was anybody that should have won that event that deserved to win the event was
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dodo head here for not Mr hook set who obviously didn't set the yeah obviously
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yeah I slacked off a little bit but uh together I I was thinking that the the
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the the pro again back to prob bass you and I and Mike and Reno all split up
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normally it was Mike and I against Dan and Marino you know we always used to play so one weekend we had two
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tournaments on a weekend a different tournament Saturday and Sunday and an Reno I fish Saturday and then an and I
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fish Sunday and then they all Mike and Reno and Mike and an teamed out too and I know we got Big Fish on each of those
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events each each event of that we got Big Fish so that was a nice little payout and the trophies and all that and
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I can't remember how we placed I was going to say the same thing I totally we we placed pretty good I think I think we got top T I can't remember how how high
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it was but with those big fish cuz I remember one of them was over 5 lb and then that that's the same tournament where we come back and your we come back
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to your truck and boat trailer to put the boat on your bass board on the trailer and your trailer was gone somebody stole it exactly so we lost
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money on that deal uh for me uh couple stand out too the the the very first Tri
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Lakes tournament here in Ontario which was uh correct me if I'm wrong b canel w
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you were supposed to correct me if I was wrong you didn't even give me a chance on that I remember the tournaments I still so so it was the the at the time
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the big tournament because it had three bodies of water that were wide open they've since change that now uh they
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try and keep Anglers on one body of water but back then we could literally run hundreds of miles to our fishing
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grounds and um it it was the first one if I recall in the probass series and I
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don't know for sure but it might have been the biggest comeback in Canadian tournament history because Reno and I
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were in 15th Place and that's when we first officially met with you and Mike
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burus right cuz we were dejected uh we were in 15th Place and we were coming
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off the water on that Saturday's event and we were in the doll drums and as
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we're coming off the water uh Pete and Mike had already pulled their boat up and they were sitting on a a rickety old
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picnic table right at the launch ramp having a beer and as we were getting our boat out of
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the water they say hey boys come on over and have a beer and we said yeah sure and so we pulled the boat up and went
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and sat down with them had a beer and we started you know crying the blues uh
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about uh our day and they were crying the blues about their day but the one thing I I'll never forget and I still
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say it might have been instrumental in what happened the next day so we're in 15th position but not just 15th position
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we're pretty much out there I think we had 13 13 and change we were under 14 lbs first place was 19 in change after
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the first day and generally in a tournament when there's that much difference you're pretty pretty much
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toast right anyways uh Pete and Mike uh
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were for whatever reason could have been the beer uh might have been the beer uh
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encouraged us saying hey you know what you're not out of it we're out of it but you're not out of it and and uh all you
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have to have is a really good day and and I remember them saying if the if the leader has 19 and change today why can't
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you have 19 and change tomorrow and he he he goes down they go down to 13 on their day so kind of made sense a little
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bit regardless to say we set out the next day and we just blew the doors off everybody and won that tournament first
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ever Tri Lake tournament I remember that still remember that well what a what a moment in our time and then the second
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highlight for me was SEC a big second place place finished I still say we were
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first uh but at that time we didn't uh think about things but it was an event
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on Lake Simco where uh oh yeah yeah yeah Peter and Mike and Reno and I uh by now
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we had developed a a friendship on tournaments and stuff and we used to it
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wasn't unusual for us to go out and kind of pre-fish information back and forth
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the day before it was perfectly perfectly legal exactly so we would you know on Thursday night or Friday night wherever we could get together we'd
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exchange information and uh which is really nice just to let you guys know if you're fishing in tournaments and you
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have some buddies like that it's really nice especially if you don't have anything going in you say God guys is
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there anything you can give us just a little bit of something a guy can give you you never know how much you know how
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well that can work for you so just keep that in mind so lo and behold it as it turned out we were both on our first
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location we were both going there because that was the biggest area that we had found that that had fish and so
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which is not unusual by the way so uh blastoff comes and we find ourselves at
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this spot both boats converged on this spot but there was a local boat anchored
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up on the spot when we got there and we know it's a local boat it's a little tin
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boat with three guys in it if I'm not mistaken anyways but they knew there was
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a tournament going on they might have even been there because there was a tournament going on I don't know but they were anchored up on our number one
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spot we felt that this spot would have enough fish for both days uh for both
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boats that's how good it was anyways we get there just as these guys are pulling
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in four Pounders left and right all three of them there was a triple header going on when we when we came off plane
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that's how good the spot was and they were they had libate they had leeches if I'm not mistake I was gonna mention if
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you didn't mention it I was gonna mention it because those leeches kicked our asses and they and they didn't mind showing the leeches to us too the
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leeches the fish hey boys look at that four pound that look good in your boat wouldn't it don't you wish you were
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using some of these and boom there they go another three triple headers four Pounders left to the point where I think
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we were there for about an hour and uh we uh we we we couldn't handle the
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pressure we that's case of not being able to handle the pressure as far as I'm concerned in Tournament Fishing we
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just couldn't de but they were annihilating the population there anyways you know what I mean it was like wow they're just beating this thing up
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to to a shred throwing throwing back three Pounders so they keep their four Pounders you know what I mean so it's like wow now Pete's partner Mikey had
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found a spot in pre-fishing that was kind of marginal but it was the only
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other thing that we had any of us had uh but it was very hard to find at that
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time uh GPS units were brand new no we didn't have GPS sorry we had no GPS we
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navigated by Maps big maps in the boat right so anyways so trying to find it
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was extremely difficult but at this point we were so screwed up I we are we were mentally we were out of it right we
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had nothing left to to to fight for so we decided let's go and look for this thing I'll tell you very quickly I tell
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you how we found that cuz I remember this is plain of day so we went Mike and I had this in our heads where it was on our map so we said okay guys here's what
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we're looking for blah blah blah so then we we'd run our our Fishers just on the Flasher screen all you got to do is look
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for 8 to 12 feet of water guys go keep going we'll do a Big Grid here we'll just do grids like a Tic-Tac toe grids
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and all that kind of stuff and when whoever finds it yell at the other guy cuz we're going to be there and that's said and that's the way we found it and
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that's what happened so we finally find it it's in the middle of 65 ft of water so it was very difficult and the only
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thing that was there was this one little Rising little island that topped out at 12 or 13 ft I believe at the time M
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anyways we finally find it it's now noon and our day is pretty much shot but at least we found something that we could
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fish and oh my God it was just Reno put on a clinic that's all I can say is Reno
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put on a clinic with us it was everything you weren't supposed to do in small M fish and he did it and he killed
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them on it he killed them and of course we we uh we watched them do it and we we got on board pretty quick uh
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um so we weighed in that day and we were first and second and
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third was that that far behind but far enough behind that to me it was a no big
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deal we should win this the only the only thing that was in dispute as far as the four of us were concerned was which
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one of us was going to end up first and which one was going to end up second because we were going out to that spot
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again obviously a spot by the way that unlike like most fishing spots and
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locations today um was like there's no way that anybody could really find it
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let's put it that way unless they had stumbled on to it uh yeah I don't think the map even showed it did no found yeah
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yeah yeah yeah I don't even know how Mike found it to be honest finder probably just run so anyways uh we head
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out there the next day and oh my God it was just cuz now we have the whole day
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right it was just glorious it was absolutely and all day long you know we're pulling in these 3 and a half 4B
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fish and culling them you know by 10:00 we were dumping out fish left and right
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you couldn't get there wasn't enough time to call one it got to a point where one guy became the Coler we we did like
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an hour each on the calling detail but anyways um and and before we left I
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remember saying guys it's just a question now of who's first and who's second because we kind of estimated our weights were in that 18 lb area which at
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the time on that Lake was pretty damn good isn't that's funny hey you hear that now that's that's three fish on
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that Lake now and uh you probably can imagine what the rest of the story was the third place team did uh pull off a
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Hail Mary pass we don't know quite how although later in life we had some ideas
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how but um regardless uh we were second and third not first and second but and I remember
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that one so clearly in it was a memorable tournament for sure it was fun it was just a fun day fun two days in
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the water yeah that was a blast and we learned a lot from that day too um you
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know we learned that uh that working with others and making the tournament
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more about learning how to fish learning how to find locations learning all of that was
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far more important than chasing the ring you know chasing that ring for CU if you
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take care of all those other things chasing the ring becomes a very real possibility and uh you you taught me the
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one thing that I learned in that tournament the biggest thing that still stays in my head to this day and I remember it's plain as day do you know what it is you think you remember well
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doing no draging no it's nothing to do with that that you don't have to have light light T nothing to do with that
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it's it's about fish attitude and weather do you remember anything about that oh God no so that's Saturday as
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we're sitting in our first and second place the thunderstorms that came through that night were ridiculous it was the loud cloud like that and I got
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up the next morning and that's all I thought of was how it affect the fish and I said to d i says dude what are we going to do here what do you mean I said
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you know you saw what was going on last night he says don't worry about that that's nothing and sure as
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hell and you know why I said that you know what what I I really belied we were going to have a better day on Sunday
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than we even did on Saturday which we did but you're right there was a horrendous storm move through I mean it
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was you it it woke you up it woke you up in the middle of the night the reason I was convinced that they were going to be there is they had no
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choice this place was so isolated in the middle of a big lake yeah with with so
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much deep water yeah I was thinking my in my head I was thinking all we're going to have to do is go from fishing
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the very Crest which we did the first day we're just going to have to drop off the sides a little bit and they're going
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to where are they going to go ocean they're not going to go in the ocean they're going to they're going to hunker around this mound I wasn't worried about
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them leaving I was worried about their attitude if they're going to bite or not that's the only thing I was worried about and man man they bit the next day
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it was different but they did bite man what a great experience good uh there you go Randy hopefully that answers your
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question uh for the rest of you out there that uh would like to join in the fund just uh make sure you send a
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all right the big moment is upon us well you're excited for our faor guest of 24
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so far I don't I can't remember when I've been more excited for a guest uh joining us now is uh one of the and I'll
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say forefathers and I'll explain that in a moment of the fishing Canada show uh
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we've known this gentleman for the better part of our adult lives and worked with him on most of the
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throughout most of the that Journey uh he is one of the first editors of the fishing Canada show uh an
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animator of first animator of the fishing Canada logo yeah that's right
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Creator that's right creator of the logo and now uh he is the owner a co-owner of
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affordable glamping luxury uh called the Manu station Lodge Ricky how you doing
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brother hey it's good to see you guys again I just want for the record hello I'm up there hi I just want point out
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that logo I designed that logo that's right just saying so the fishing Canada
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logo right there that baby that everybody SE Outdoor Journal radio uh absolutely oh my god really good man
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yeah Outdoor Journal radio Rick and I collaborated on that one on that entire process with the uh with the book
35:15
remember in the clay bed I remember that that was a process that was real clay that that Rick laid out in a big box
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like a Sandbox and then and then we kind of had to figure out how to get it to move it was crazy it was yeah had our
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kitty litter and our hair dryers to blow the desert sand exactly exactly how would that Ricky very quickly how would
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that compare to nowadays would that be an easy logo to build nowadays with all the fancy Computing no yeah you couldn't
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compare we were Angelo and I we were doing we were doing some pretty Innovative things back then on like Flo
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discs and amga computers it was you can't even compare it I could literally take my phone out right now and probably
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recreate that whole thing between what phones can do and probably do it in afternoon by the end
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of the call today but you know but you know back then it's not like like we were completely oh my god when we first
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saw it you guys said guys okay everybody come on here take a look at this and we're all looking say what the hell just happened we literally I remember
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literally sitting in that big quanson Hut we had back in the property the old Dome thinking okay how do we do this and
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and we literally came up with all of that technique over an evening if I'm
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not mistaken after work night and for everyone watching if you go to the your YouTube page you've got the outoor
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Journal shows on there and they can see for themselves and it well I watch them yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it does well
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yeah and the leaves coming in and all that that was cool man that was awesome anyways there's a million things we need
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to talk about uh before we get into that uh at some point we're going to talk
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about this new Venture which is I guess the real reason you're here maybe for everybody else but not for me me uh for
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me I just want to walk down memory lane with you buddy but uh you've got a new business called the manth station Lodge
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which I I'm really excited about uh I was prived to some of this way back when you were just conceptualizing it and uh
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thought it was great then and I think it's even better now so I want to make sure we leave enough time for that but
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before that I do want to walk down memory lane and we're probably going to
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have some differences of opinion as to what when and where uh there's not a there's not a whole lot
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of documentation that would substantiate most of what we're about to talk about but from my
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perspective and correct me when I'm wrong not if I'm wrong when I go offline
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whoa Ricky So wow did everybody get a time stamp on that Angelo Viola admitted
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he might be wrong you you were here as an editor prior to our existing Joe
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gorkowski editor who's been here forever since the beginning of time but you
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actually preceded him as the editor on fishing Canada show did you not or not as a matter of fact yes
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that's right okay and and correct me if I'm wrong what happened
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was you two flip-flopped positions with another
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company am I right and that that other company is uh crey um video something or
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other am I I was working for uh yeah reseller at the time I was doing Tech sales Tech sales yeah okay so somebody
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you went there Joe came here that's how I remember it it might have been it yeah okay all right I just because it's been
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bugging me I've been trying to see if I could remember it accurately but that's what happened Rick went there and in
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turn and he went there to replace Joe and Joe came and replaced him so that's
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no the other way around yeah Joe replaced me or yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah now also correct me if I'm wrong I first
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met you the prior to any of that happening I met you wow we're going we're going long going deep buddy I met
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you I remember this day I remember are you gonna tell me about my living room in Miss Saga on a dreary I want to say
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February January February day I drove to miss Saga to meet you because you were
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working on some cuttingedge stuff on something called the Omega
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toaster yeah am I right omiga tell us tell us about that well I mean we talk
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about floppy discs and the early days I mean I was doing some uh pretty Innovative stuff uh in with the Amiga
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and 3D animation which really wasn't a thing um I had I was running a film festival actually at the time it focused
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on on computer animation and one of my films ended up being uh accepted into a
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a film another film festival in Ottawa which is actually the Museum of Science and Technology they had a a computer
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Animation Festival and they invited me to come up to Ottawa to present one of my films so fun fact if you go to the
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National Archives of Canada and type my name in gosh an that would have been what was that 198 1990 1992 maybe yeah
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I'm in the National Archives my film two bits and so that sort of buzzed and I was putting out a newsletter and this
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was of course before the days of the internet um somehow we connected it
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might have been my newsletter I sent out I don't know and uh you made the connection and Angelo to your credit um
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you you you saw something I'm not saying I'm particularly particularly Pixar talented but you saw something that
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applied to the work that you wanted to do and again no one was really doing it
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so uh here's you with this vision of what um the fish and Canada show with
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some of the sonar animations we wanted to do magav Vision project and all these things that like mag no words and then
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I'm here with like you know an award-winning animator with time on my hands and we connected and it was just
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that was 19 let's call it 92 wow wow magav Vision I forgot about that one
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buddy holy Ma you remember that oh God do I remember that yeah yeah yeah and and yeah I remember driving up and
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finding you uh your apartment and coming up and we had uh peanut butter hot peanut butter cookies out of the oven if
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I'm not mistaken damn damn right and we talked about our futures together and we
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talked about my vision of what I wanted to see in our industry of all places in the fishing show television business I
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wanted to see animation I wanted to see the wonderful things that you were doing and and to see how we could collaborate
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and bring them in how old is our our YouTube uh how far back does our YouTube Dean do you know or anybody do they know
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how far back our YouTube goes does it does it go way back to start Rick's first animations or anything like that I
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don't are you are YouTube station a channel channel we we should try and put something on there that that show the
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very first of it because I remember I'm picturing those logos and everything in the animation coming in and it was so cool though you know back then was was
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cutting Ed now I think we have the caveman one is that the one you're talking about oh the cave that's on YouTube yeah that's a
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great one on fishing Canada yeah so there you go folks go to fishing YouTube and take and check out something like that it's that's what Ricky's work was
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it's pretty good man like it's it's good it it was really good I think you should bring that back I love that one oh my
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God it was unbelievable and what I loved working with you Rick and and still due to this why we're still here we are
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almost 40 years later still working together and collaborating on things is that in all
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honesty and I've had a I've had the privilege of working with some Uber talented people in my career very
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fortunate thank [Music] you but I have to say you are probably
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the only one that I connect with that we
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don't have to do a lot of explaining we get it right when when we talk to each
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other we almost talk in pictures as opposed to words because when you say
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something I can see it clearly you you the way you articulate it it just paints a 3D image in front of my mind and vice
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versa we've always been able to do that and that's what's kept us all these years uh that and you work so well off
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the cuff that is Ricky right there that is that is Ricky Dean asked me um and
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we're going to play I'm assuming we're going to play some of these board uh Dean asked me earlier on about you know because we did a lot together on radio
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uh for a number of years people may not realize you also worked with me on radio
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but you would come up with these little little moments on radio where you would just before we'd go to air you know
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maybe the day before you'd say oh by the way I I I built a couple of pieces that we're going to air on on Saturday when
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you do the live radio show and I don't think there was ever one that I listened
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to and said no no absolutely not everyone was absolutely brilliant and I I didn't have anything to do with it you
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just came up with this stuff and produced well can we hear some of the Hans and frons or some of the some of
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the little pieces that on here all [Music]
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right time once again for the Outdoor Journal radio show nature
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moment this week the mating rituals of the Canadian Mard duck oh my God I feels
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so good oh yeah oh oh yeah oh yeah Oh's your daddy Oh's your
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dad oh my [Music] God
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Dam now oh my back to the show like he just that was good these
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things would just drop in out of out of the heavens and they would what did the uh what did the radio station at the
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time FAN 590 did they take offense to that it was the only thing on The FAN
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590 that had life that had that had energy that I mean all to this day I
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mean a lot of the guys that I talk to still from back then remark about those
45:26
moments those special moments no they're great just wonder sometimes right and the the part I have to come clean and
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and throw right out there those were 110% Ricky oh yeah like there was nobody
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else involved in those from concept to production to uh narration the voice was
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Ricky's as well to the composition the packaging and the delivery and then and
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back then also you were the you were the technical producer of the show as well right so it was it was it was all Ricky
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man and here whenever I go duck hunting I'm doing that qu little did I know that's a bunch of that doesn't
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work for the no you know who's your daddy and then of course there was a
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series that you did I think we have one of them uh the Hans and France series which became Uber popular with the
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audience fron that was a good workout you look tense no Hans I'm not maybe a
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little backrub some oil Hans it's okay here I picked out some music for you how
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about something a little less relaxing how about the Outdoor Journal radio show ooh I love these guys hey guys you look
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a little [Music] tense this stuff was brilliant man I
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used to I used to laugh when it come CU a lot of times the when they first play
46:47
I never I didn't hear I heard them with the audience right I was going to say that'd be the best moment if you didn't have to if you didn't have to ahead of
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time so Ricky could throw it at you and surprise you that Saturday morning that'd be the best right so how did these things come about Ricky what what
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what talk to us get let us in on the secret how does this stuff happen well
47:07
it's it's really just like you it's listening to you and you were you were working out an idea of what the Outdoor
47:13
Journal radio show might be and it wasn't just fishing or it wasn't just hunting it was appealing to sort of the
47:19
outdoor adventurist for example and someone who is um maybe athletic or in the outdoors
47:26
which could not be further from you Angelo so thank you Ricky that was a dig on you
47:34
because you know um you know you know out of frame is like a Starbucks latte you know just out of frame sometimes you
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know a lot of times inframe too nowadays yeah yeah so we've got this this Mystique around Outdoor Adventure so I I
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picked up on a few a few themes Hansen frons was my play on sort of like the Tark skiers the the the the adventure
47:55
out in SW Switzerland that are just Conquering the world and that was that was a play on that and if we have a
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chance of course there's our Australian adventure oh that's coming up as so
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maybe if it's queued up we can we can listen to the other Adventure from Australia and again that's a playoff of you Angelo I'm basically making fun of
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you thank you good day on the alligator hunter on today's show I'll be exploring the
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Outback of Australia and visiting a highly possessive family of freshwater crocodiles look there's a back of them
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now and I'm going to sleep them tonight ah she's eating me alive all right here
48:32
we have the Venezuelan Anaconda at over 45 ft long it can swallow a cow and I'm
48:37
going to wrap it around my neck ah get it off me all right then the Indonesian
48:43
kodo Dragon its venom is dly to any animal on the planet and can kill a man in 3 seconds and on today's show I'm
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going to kiss it ah my face is falling off what a great show that was and look
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at me I'm still alive between you and me I owe everything I know to the oo Journal radio show till next
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time and I've been assured that as a horrible Australian accent wouldn't even pass for New Zealand it's not that bad
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you're close but that's what makes it brilliant yeah those P I got moments I got enough moments to make same with the
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Hans and France thing it was close enough but but but campy enough that it
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just made the whole piece fantastic is there Pedro piranha is there P the piran one I got him too I want to hear
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that hey I'm Pedro the piranha and I love Canada hey you get out of my
49:39
way but I'm not tering young plump Fair Canadians I'm listening to The Outdoor Journal radio show it's sweetart come
49:47
over [Applause] here so racist it's horrible but this is
49:54
a good example though of of how I would pick up on on something Angelo that you would maybe mention and if you recall
50:01
back in the back in the day I don't even know when this was originally recorded someone in Lake Simco had released a
50:07
bunch of piranhas in the lake that's it right that's it and and this was one of the news stories of that week so I just
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picked up on that and created this do you know Mexican piranha terrorizing plump young Fair
50:20
Canadians I think one of the best pieces you ever did unfortunately we can't find
50:25
and I know you've looked as well oh I know it was for that year uh that episode was the um opening of tro season
50:34
uh around the province right and it was the week before trout season opened and it depicted Hans uh going into a small
50:42
little uh General Store complete with the little bell at the on the door and
50:47
um trying to find the set of uh waiters just waiters yeah and it was
50:53
just hilarious but unfortunately I don't know what happened to it it just disappeared that I look tired for that
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one there weren't enough floppy discs at the time um how long did you were you
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the technical producer on uh Outdoor Journal radio do you recall it all well
51:12
I mean several years I I know it was during the Barkley days right because we were producing it from up in the gallery
51:19
up above the store overlooking the store a few years for sure yeah absolutely we got so we got our groove and every
51:26
Saturday morning fired all up you know if only people could have seen us behind the scenes for for the uh Inception of
51:34
the Outdoor Journal radio show because there we were we knew nothing about radio let's be honest um we had a lot of
51:43
Mickey Mouse little gadgetry and and and you know equipment that we had Cobble
51:50
together and uh we you know I still still look back at those days how the
51:57
hell did we even get off the ground how do how are we today here we are almost
52:02
40 years later celebrating the brand via podcast how the hell did we even get it
52:08
off the ground well my question goes back even further than that when you guys were think you and Reno were thinking about this what made you start
52:15
a radio show and then why did you not do fishing Canada radio there must be something to that right so what happened
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was uh Glenn goldup who was a former NHL hockey player player um got a hold of and and he was a
52:31
fishing Canada viewer right got a hold of us and at the time
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um the fan was not part of Rogers it wasn't even part of a network it was a
52:43
small little uh downtown Toronto station on Holly Street in the bowels of of
52:49
Toronto little little side street and they had a a sports it might have even
52:55
been if I recall it might have been Canada's first all sports AM station but
53:02
it was just a station not a network anyways uh one thing led to another with
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Goldie and um and I know if there's anybody listening to this from those
53:14
that era will probably say well how about me I was in M but unfortunately can't remember uh there
53:20
were there were several other people involved but they said hey why don't we do you guys are really good on on the
53:26
show uh for television I think we could translate that to radio but we'd like to
53:32
expand it Beyond right and we had just finished coming off of or maybe we were
53:38
still in the midst of doing Outdoor Journal Television right at the time and
53:43
we said well why not why don't we do it as Outdoor Journal and just make it radio and they said yeah that'd be a
53:51
great idea and that's how we made that transition but the original Outdoor Journal radio show I'm thinking for the
53:57
first year or two was Hardcore fishing right right and we just slowly expanded
54:05
it to more of General audience right that's it was originally fishing but but because we wanted we knew that
54:12
eventually we were going to get away from Just Fishing and because we had Outdoor Journal television either running parallel or was at the end of
54:19
its run with CBC maybe I'm thinking that at that time um we said let's make it
54:24
outdoor journal and that's that's how that whole and then of course you didn't say why you started a radio show didn't
54:30
you didn't say why cuz cuz Glenn goldup approached us and said hey what I think
54:36
I think you guys need to be in radio Glenn was the ultimate salesman as you probably knew later on you met him
54:41
Goldie yeah he was good yeah you're right for those of you listening uh Glenn goldup was
54:46
uh oh I know he's going to hate me if he's listening to this he was a right turn it backwards he was a
54:53
right-winger for the the Los Angeles Kings that's where his career started in
54:58
the NHL and then uh it was relatively shortlived and he went on to uh sales
55:04
which most hockey professional hockey players at some point do turn into sales
55:09
people and uh and then he was ended up with this little obscure little station
55:16
called the fan right on and that's how uh how this whole Goldie good guy oh my
55:21
God we we've spent some time with him out in the water and he's oh yeah he's quite the character great stories from
55:27
him too but yeah and uh Ricky was working on the fishing Canada show at
55:32
the time when this all started so uh he didn't have anything to do with his Saturdays and weekends so I said why
55:38
don't you do the show right that's how it all came to be and and here we are
55:45
now like I said before some 40 years later talking about and that's great because uh it's been a a wonderful
55:51
wonderful wonderful ride if if anybody remembers the uh the ice fishing
55:56
animation that we did at Christmas time Rick did all that that was a classic that we keep re you know reusing every
56:03
year we use it and everybody comments on it everybody loves it that's a rick delishy right there an original Rick
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show correct me if I'm wrong correct me if I'm wrong we've just we've just uh
57:04
touched on I don't know four or five professions and and or areas of
57:11
expertise that most people would die for but I really think
57:18
that in at the end of all of this because I and I personally know that at
57:23
one point you had Express to me um this you really wanted to be an animator
57:29
full-time like that's what you wanted to be you wanted to be one of those guys that Disney and if I'm not mistaken you
57:36
either applied for it or you were talking to me about twice you applied for it there you go I remembered twice
57:42
you applied to be an animator at Disney Pixar yeah I got two rejection letters
57:48
up on the wall yeah no kidding you got oh yeah back in the days of mail absolutely why would they just quickly
57:54
Rick did what was their excuse because in our opinions you were the best of the best what was their excuse for that they
58:01
views on you would they just say no we're full we don't have you know it's it's it's the industry the industry I
58:07
would consider myself in the animation World a generalist so you could come to me with an idea and I'd be like oh
58:13
they're gonna it's gonna look like this it's gonna sound like this we're gonna light it like this it's gonna have this pace and I'm gonna edit it like this
58:19
that would be the role of a generalist and um certainly with Pixar and and with video game velopment to you have these
58:26
Specialists like a good friend of mine a good friend of mine does teeth he models
58:31
and animates teeth and mouth shapes and that's his gig and that's all he does
58:36
and and if you've been watch paying attention to the interview and with Angela going over my past 20 jobs and
58:43
we're still G to talk about a few new jobs like I I I couldn't wow professionally they don't
58:50
really look for generalists like me they look forist who could do something and I guess there was enough information in
58:56
the application that you would have sent them for somebody to read through that and say you know what this guy would not
59:01
be happy doing what we need him to do and that is be onedimensional and just specialize in
59:08
specialize and and you always portrayed yourself as as the guy who and that's
59:14
what I loved loved and love about you is that I don't have to like you come
59:22
complete with water I don't even have to add water you have you come complete the
59:27
package package just needs a place to sit not only that Rick actually shot
59:32
some fishing Canada shows for us he was the cameraman I'm getting to that he W there yet to that I was going to say you
59:38
people have seen his work that way too well yeah well okay I'm the lord giveth and the Lord is going to take away the
59:44
Lord is going to take away here in a minute oh my God poor Ricky you you are
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too one you're you're a oneman show and and that generally is not what these
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animation houses are looking for they need a team player who knows his one spot of expertise his one area that he
1:00:03
excels in and then it's a handoff with the other members in your case you don't even need those other members and that's
1:00:09
the difference and uh yeah um so that's that's you would think that that would be a good trait to have but maybe not in
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that field uh but it is a good trait to have as far as I'm concerned because uh
1:00:22
man the stuff you you know we're just trying to remember some of the stuff you came up with and sort of touch we have we haven't even scratched the surface
1:00:28
it's uh I can't think of and Rick correct me if I'm wrong did we ever
1:00:35
disagree on a piece that you did did we ever look at it and I like I don't
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remember ever poo pooing anything you did no I think you gave me pretty much I
1:00:47
think you pretty much gave me the keys to the keys to the the what do you call it you know Castle you know I had licens
1:00:54
to and uh no I don't I think we I think you and I would Bute heads all the time
1:00:59
on on certain you know in in the approval
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process finishing things off sometimes we would we would disagree but it would always work out and to your credit you
1:01:11
are usually right I'll I'll admit that thank you Rick I appreciate that uh
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so Pete mentioned about fieldwork so as you were working behind the scenes all
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these years on on the fishing candidate show and on Outdoor Journal we did have one big falling apart on Outdoor Journal
1:01:30
I didn't even I haven't decided whether I want to mention it yet or not because it might have no relevance on on what
1:01:36
we're doing today but but as you were seeing this from the backside your
1:01:41
interest or curiosity peaked about the front side and Pete just mentioned that is fieldwork and for one reason or another
1:01:49
you just it just never worked out until one day I think it was The Perfect Storm
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uh all of the stars were aligned in the planets and whatnot in other words our cameraman got sick and we need we needed
1:02:04
Rick to come out the field with us and um I'm thinking the only shoot I remember Rick shooting was Lake westlam
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that's it is that it no there were two guys there were actually two what was the second one I shot I shot a good
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portion of um the kids oh right kids the
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very first the kids yeah not the whole show I again I I picked up the slack I
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think yeah there was something happening where we couldn't we needed someone to finish that show right and I think it
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was the same season where you where you you dragged me out only for West mcon which is
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about it's not that 10 minut drive that way from where I'm recording right now north of bankr yeah um yeah you gave me
1:02:47
that whole show and that was I really enjoyed that that was that was that was fun to do and do you remember we broke down right in the middle of the lake we
1:02:53
had the boat half a part reing the boat and all that oh my God and I'll tell you what what's you know what I find
1:02:59
interesting is like I knew I'd be editing this show so I'm always shooting for the edit right right and uh so the
1:03:06
the boat died you've got sponsors you've got like you can't show a boat dying on the water I'm like no way man I'm gonna
1:03:12
record this because you know I'm the editor on this and and and that ended up that moment where uh Pete you you
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hotwired the it wasn't the trolling motor you the actual motor um that end up from mot
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batteries that's what happens in the field and and and that's what's great about about sort of unscripted
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Television which Angelo you were really a Pioneer on that and and you're doing that today this unscripted sort of drama
1:03:39
that unfolds that um you know you need a good editor you need a good editor and I always say I always say tell the joke
1:03:45
they like Rick do you ever wonder like who would play like you in the movie of your life and my answer is always the
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same I don't care who plays me in the movie of my life who's the editor that's right that's going to make all
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the difference in the world yeah yeah um hey the price of boats right now if I could Hotwire boats nowadays we can make
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some money make money no kidding so so you had brief a brief
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encounter with the outdoors in terms of uh shooting it um you went back indoors
1:04:15
and never to be seen again Outdoors but my question to you is with
1:04:21
that brief time that you spent there if you could redo the whole thing over again would you be outside doing the
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field production or inside doing the
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post that's a really good question because I'm I'm always doing something out ofd doors uh my the the thing that I
1:04:43
love doing is mountain biking right now like I whenever I travel the world I was at a a glamping convention in Colorado
1:04:49
just a few months ago and you know I rented a mountain bike and I was biking top of a Mountain outside of Boulder um
1:04:56
I was in the aisle of man uh doing some work uh out that way and uh rented a bike and went through they called the
1:05:02
plantations forests of the island man in the Irish sea so I do spend a lot of time out ofd doors uh try to keep active
1:05:09
and try to balance the work that I do in sort of you know working in technology as well so it all I to answer your
1:05:17
question I mean I really it would be difficult for me to pick only one i' need to have my probably foot in in both
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actually in both areas yeah well you know what I'm working on right now so well that's what I want that's what I
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want to get you now which has all LED you to where you are today aside from uh
1:05:35
still being uh deeply immersed in production a variety of different areas
1:05:40
in production including ourselves you're you're actually you've been working on the Roland Martin Show on our behalf for
1:05:47
the last little while that is an outdoor adventure in itself right it's just an adventure a total Adventure that one for
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sure say I'm happy to help you Angelo because if I didn't do it I I I always
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tell people when I tell the story about how Rick has gone from that very first
1:06:06
day that I met him some 40 years ago he's gone full circle and climbed up that ladder today he's working on Roland
1:06:13
Martin that's a big deal right that is so true anyways Hey by the wayi he's a
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great it's a great show and he has so many so many AVS he's a
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legend a real privilege to be the guy behind the scenes on the r there's only been two editors that have ever worked
1:06:32
on um fishing with Roland Martin two you're one of them wow there you go look
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at you Ricky I didn't know that yeah his previous editor worked with him from day one they were kids he got sick or
1:06:47
something didn't he that he they they worked together right from day one and until he became ill that's Bo is his
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name y um he was the only editor that ever touched uh fishing with Roland and
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Roland uh show so yeah you you were traveling in very very very very uh
1:07:10
narrow uh margins there buddy I saw it Rick I saw it on Sportsman Janel the other day it looks really good buddy the
1:07:16
final product on the television I watch I just got the end of it looks really good so there you go what I say who I
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don't care who's playing your life who's the editor has anybody been more influential than I
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have to ask in the fishing community in terms of production and post production than uh than their very own Ricky
1:07:33
delishy oh he's a North American specialist isn't he I think so absolutely which brings us full circle
1:07:40
as to why you're here today so for years as you remember from the radio show I used to always have this little joke
1:07:47
about Yurts always right I always used to say oh I dream of one day being able
1:07:53
to produce this show I want to come to you live from a yurt somewhere because I
1:07:59
just love the word yur and and and lo and behold here we
1:08:05
are uh we're going to talk to you about Yurts but not just any ordinary Ys so
1:08:11
what's an ordinary YT is a a rounded tent isn't it it's not squared off it's just a rounded tent got the tent I
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believe it came originally the word was used to describe the Mongols uh yeah a
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Mongolian Serbian Serbian thing right yeah so here we are now today we're
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going to talk about Yurts but a little more uh up to dat we're we're we're
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going to call them glamping Yurts take it away Ricky what's the business you just started oh hold let me just pull
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down my uh my background here hope you would there you go thank you I love it
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that's awesome that is awesome buddy now he's in the Y just the way I always in my uh glamping Dome so um what we're
1:08:57
building up here in Manu just north of bftt is a village of glamping of geodisc
1:09:04
glamping doome similar to what you're seeing on screen right now so these are four season fully insulated air
1:09:11
conditioning ice machine latte machine hot shower porcelain toilet like a
1:09:17
propellent toilet Mr Bowman I like the latte machine myself to be honest I'll go to the house if I have to but
1:09:23
for a latte that's no problem you got it Pete um no but this is the reason why
1:09:28
we're doing this and my partner Jen and I are are are we have some land up here north of bankof and we're right at the
1:09:34
intersection of b106e it's a one of the main snowmobile trails in ATV trails and then the spur
1:09:41
that heads off to Manu which is which has among other things butter tarts and the LCB so we're right on the corner the
1:09:48
intersection of that and we've got several Acres that we've uh been rezoned
1:09:54
it's been approved for accommodation use so these domes are similar to what you're seeing on screen right now um
1:10:00
they're just over 500 square feet they're two stories St two stories they sleep up to six
1:10:07
people and like I say they're fully air conditioned heating uh radiant heating under under the floors um plus uh
1:10:15
whatever else we could pack into it a full kitchen and a beautiful absolutely stunning bathroom so okay obviously you
1:10:22
have electricity I assuming you have electricity or is there some way else you're running on propane or something else or is it is it electricity we've
1:10:28
got an excellent um supply of hydro here so we've got 220 lines running out to the uh to The Domes and they're going to
1:10:34
run the heat pumps and air conditioning and the on demand water heaters you see
1:10:39
the snowmobiling Community here is is is huge in in the bankof sort of Hastings
1:10:45
Highlands area there there are some beautiful motels um some smaller hotels
1:10:51
in sort of north of Peter B and then through bankof and then there's really
1:10:56
nothing there's a handful of hunting camps with no water no Hydro I'm generalizing but it's pretty rugged and
1:11:04
then when you get to Whitney of course you have some some accommodations at the Gate of alanin Park and we're right
1:11:09
we're right literally in the middle of that yeah thank you exactly in the middle of that is the man Hotel still
1:11:16
operating it's now called McAlpine house it's a B&B right
1:11:22
across from the train station that used to be the best stayed there a few few nights oh I know what you're talking
1:11:27
about so Aaliyah runs the the um the Airbnb you're thinking of the Arlington
1:11:33
the big purple building right yeah yeah the old man place is just beautiful we
1:11:39
used to use it as uh our uh drop off point going into alanin park we would
1:11:45
generally overnight there and have a few uh uh jugs of beer jugs oh yeah because
1:11:54
because we were going into the park right and then then in most cases we would go in with no with no beer so you
1:11:59
had to kind of fill up that was the tradition you had to kind of overdo it going in so you didn't miss it as much
1:12:04
when you were there and then of course on the way out now we're hurting big so
1:12:10
we would overnight again uh so it was a regular stop so you're not far from there huh AB No in fact that's the one
1:12:16
of our selling features and we you know the community is very small and and everyone is aware of what we're doing here and we're providing something
1:12:22
different but that that Spur Road I mentioned for the LCBO and the butter tarts that brings you right to the Arlington and you got a you got an
1:12:29
amazing pub with pizza and it's really good the guys that run it are are just fabulous so they're wow I'm really
1:12:36
really happy to be a part of this community Manu and hings Highlands um
1:12:41
does have a reputation of being this quirky artsy but very very friendly community at the Gateway of one of the
1:12:48
most spectacular provincial parks in Canada think what you when are you
1:12:54
launching this right so um we were zoned just last month in January 2024 so we uh
1:13:02
when this when the snow melts we break ground we've got all our contractors all lined up everything's ready to go so uh
1:13:08
we'll have the first dome up and running let's say early summer my dream is obviously to have it open for may24
1:13:14
weekend so that's that's our goal nothing wrong with having a goal and then once that's built we'll shake it
1:13:20
down we'll get our because we're going to do a DIY we're doing a lot of ourselves and once we get that working
1:13:25
we're opening up a second dome by the end of the summer and then once that happens and it's churning and we have
1:13:30
our Sile crowd coming in the winter this time next year we'll have two more domes so a total of four domes that sleep up
1:13:38
to six people per Dome is that your is that the only room you have for or youve got room to expand upon more if you want
1:13:44
oh we've got plenty of room so the dream is we've got this huge forest and we didn't even talk about my time working
1:13:49
for the Disney company so I have a flare for theatrics so we've got this this this Forest that we're going to light up
1:13:55
as our I call it our Enchanted Forest so we're building a 2.1 kilometer Loop that's a hiking Loop that's available
1:14:01
during the day for L show caching for the kids and there's some really spectacular um we call them um the these
1:14:07
Rock features that in all over bankr so we'll build a walking tour around that but then at night we're going to light
1:14:14
up the forest with some pretty St lighting that'll be a a wave two maybe
1:14:19
wave three thing but we've got the land and then once we have this land sort of mapped out we'll be putting some you
1:14:25
more family maybe A-frames although what I really want to put in are these this new technology it's these uh mirrored
1:14:32
mirrored homes imagine like a storage container but instead of metal walls they're one-sided mirror two-sided
1:14:38
mirrors so when you're walking in the forest you don't actually even see the building right on it oh that's true all
1:14:46
the tree Reflections and all that going up yeah that's right it really confuses your eye and then but the path leads up
1:14:52
to like this what are you walking up to and it's the door and and you're inside and then you're in a like a studio
1:14:58
apartment with all four walls minus the bathrooms are all transparent out it's a forest you're literally in the living in
1:15:04
the middle of a g a gon Forest uh with no bugs and but you have running water
1:15:09
and the whole thing that's that's down the road that's down the road but the geodisc domes are a sure thing the snowmobilers the aters really want a
1:15:16
choice for something again a little more luxurious they call it's called glamping for a reason they want something a
1:15:22
little bit better to bring their spouse um and you know have a have a have a a a
1:15:27
a home base that's not a hunting camp with without and again nothing against honey camps but no it's it's an
1:15:33
alternative to is out here right now Ricky this is we're talking to Rick right now in the winter in February of
1:15:40
2024 the mildest winter we have all experienced in Southern Ontario how is the snow up there is there snowmobiling
1:15:47
going on in and Manu and bankr and all that right now it's very sad everybody is uh is is hunkered down it did rain
1:15:54
last week and uh there's this glaze of ice over everything it's we're now at
1:16:00
zero today after four days of six degrees so and this is devastating for
1:16:06
uh the bank crft area because it is a heavy uh there's a lot of there's a lot of snowmobile users up here and the
1:16:13
trails here especially where we are literally right here on on a north south intersection it goes to aonan park and
1:16:19
as far as Peterboro and then you go east west all through halberton and M and the other way to Barry's Bay we're
1:16:25
right on that corner and we haven't heard a snowmobile in two days it's really sad wow wow come on out of the Dome there buddy you're giving me I want
1:16:31
to I want to be in there crawled up in that blanket right behind you come on out of the dome for a second there you
1:16:37
go come back we're back in the here we go so it just dawned on me you're
1:16:43
talking about this new um glamping concept and the domes and all that is
1:16:50
perfect for every other outdoor Pastime except the one I think that's going to
1:16:55
be the most important in your business and that is the anger because I'll tell you right now anybody going into alanin
1:17:02
park and coming out of alanin park this should almost become Through Time a a
1:17:08
staple stop over like you're what you were just talking about before Hotel stop over exactly literally only a half
1:17:14
an hour from Whitney which would be the East Gate of Ag and and we are building uh with the domes of course they do have
1:17:20
uh full kitchens we're also building a a a common cooking area outside so if you
1:17:25
for even for fish cleaning we could do that outside in this common area and then we've got a big fire pit fire
1:17:31
Circle um designed for the center of the compound and and finally we've got a
1:17:36
parking for um uh six six trucks with trailers I think the only thing that's
1:17:42
missing from that concept from that idea would be the fishing Canada show to to
1:17:50
come up and experience it and maybe see if we can't capture that
1:17:56
moment that we always want to have you guys up for sure but all your listeners once we come up and running um I I'm
1:18:02
know I'm sure going to be able to squeeze a plugin but you know me I'll try as many ttimes as I can Manu station
1:18:21
lodge.com those that don't really know I most of the people in maybe southern Ontario would know the area but that
1:18:27
bankr area Manu and that in towards Al gonan Park the kind of a a north and east of us right here kaladar is not far
1:18:34
from there there's all these it is primo fishing in that and hunting too for sure
1:18:39
I mean the deer hunters Etc but for fishing wise and I mean for a couple of couples let's just say to me now now it
1:18:46
makes sense of me and my buddy wanted to go fishing for two or three days we bring the boat and the trailer up the
1:18:52
wise want to go up but they don't want to go fishing they got now they got this beautiful little accommodations they could stay at you got so many lakes you
1:18:57
could go in on a daily basis west mcon of course we talked earlier we got ceg
1:19:03
lakeo Creek for while you and your buddy are oak fishing your wives can be entertained by
1:19:10
Ricky Ricky Ricardo as we used to call him sir uh he'd be bor and happy to show
1:19:15
you just wanted to say that didn't you hello ladies the boys are gone Rick here's one thing you're gonna
1:19:21
need for fisherman you're gonna need outdoor 110 volts to plug in B bolts for Batteries you going to have that yeah
1:19:27
we're going to be running 220 to The Domes and then we're going to have plenty of Outlet that's all guy that's all a guy will want for his boat right
1:19:34
there bud that's it no absolutely I'm with you on that I just doned on me that we're going to have to give you a whole
1:19:40
new handle because you mentioned DYI you're building some of this stuff yourself you're working well I mean I
1:19:46
know my limits and I play Within it so I mean we got contractors lined up for the
1:19:51
trench work that's going to happen to run the run the Four Season water and also the foundations for the Dome are
1:19:57
critical because these are massive these are 8 m wide D holy crap yeah they're
1:20:03
big they're 550 square feet eight meters across and I don't know 20 four some
1:20:09
feet high so we got to get the foundations right and we're putting in radiant heating as well so it's got to
1:20:16
be right and then at that point to hand over the actual domes themselves with a
1:20:21
couple of people and Pete and I think I might have you guys come up uh a couple of people can put it up in two or three
1:20:27
days they're pretty they're pretty straightforward they're they're Lego at that point it's what goes inside and
1:20:32
then of course the interior design we've got some vision of what we're going to make it look like and if you've been on our site we've spent quite a bit of
1:20:39
effort already on sort of the marketing and the color schemes and things like that so it'll project as well what's going to be on the second floor you said
1:20:45
there's two floors is there going to be yeah what's on the top floor it's it goes over the kitchen and and washroom
1:20:52
and that's two double beds within a loft with a ladder that goes up to the top for the kids or more people that is cool
1:20:58
what a great idea from award-winning animator to uh accomplished producer to
1:21:05
uh a cameraman that ends didn't really like that his work it was okay he was all right uh to a technical producer of
1:21:13
award-winning radio programs uh it goes on and now he's building a a whole
1:21:18
outdoor community and doing some of the leg work and Manpower work involved you
1:21:23
are truly the renaissance man now officially I'm going to call you the Renaissance
1:21:29
Man need need a nice Scotch or something there you go there you go uh Ricky uh
1:21:34
tell folks once again how they can get a hold of you and get more information on this wonderful project well thank you
1:21:40
very much an and Pete and thanks for inviting me on the show this is so wonderful to come back and connect um
1:21:45
the Manu station Lodge we're across from the old Manu train station it's manst
1:21:51
lodge.com um perf all our socials are lit up and I have to give a plug to to Jen who's done
1:21:57
an incredible job of curating our Tik Tok feed I never imagin I'd be on Tik Tok I didn't think I fit the demo but
1:22:04
it's astonishing the demo of our viewers is um 40 to 60 uh predominantly like
1:22:10
right down the middle um male female and we have well over 200,000 views on our
1:22:16
videos already excellent nice good for you and at 150,000 on on one of the one
1:22:22
of the videos basically that that sparked a little bit of a conversation about the animosity or the ATV riders on
1:22:29
snowmobile trails we touched on that a little bit not knowing how volatile that was but boy that really that really lit
1:22:35
up our social so we're on Tik Tok um in New Station Lodge for sure and all the other socials excellent and yeah if
1:22:41
you're interested sign up and we'll just put you on on the guest list for when we start taking reservations in the spring
1:22:47
uh wonderful sharing a little time with you in on a on a platform that we've never really
1:22:53
done before with you and that has interviewed you we've always worked with you and by the way for those of you listening work Rick still works on the
1:22:59
fishing Canada to show in various areas of it this year including this year I was going to say an actual episode that
1:23:06
he did from start to finish correct and it will be labeled as such do we remember which episode that was anybody
1:23:12
episode four I believe my working was episode four yeah a couple weeks ago actually y so still very much involved
1:23:19
uh in the fishing Canada show that he helped us all put on the map uh and we
1:23:25
thank you for that my friend and we thank you for your friendship and we will enjoy in your success coming up in
1:23:33
this new V I'm sure well thank you so much I'll let you guys know of course when we're up and running perfect thank
1:23:39
you Ricky thanks Ricky take care buddy good luck buddy uh Rick delishy one of the I I said forefathers of the of the
1:23:46
fishing canidate show because he was there three others um Brent lis I know
1:23:52
you're being an but I can I can always outdo you in that department uh Brent leua was the original I think Todd
1:24:01
Monroe would have to be considered in that Bunch as well uh Rick delishy and
1:24:07
Joe gorkowski I think all four of them in terms of from a a technical aspect
1:24:13
really uh gave life and birth to what we today take for example right and that
1:24:20
they all did a great job absolutely s Ricky's um fun additional uh uh
1:24:26
involvement of course was in The Outdoor Journal radio show or uh TV show which
1:24:33
which gave birth to this podcast um so he's kind of been along for everything
1:24:39
that's all we can say that guy did everything for this company we've had our differences I know it sounded like a Little Love Fest there you and Ricky had
1:24:45
some battles we had Kumbaya moment there but uh Ricky and I um as much as
1:24:51
we singular in our um from a creativity
1:24:57
standpoint and and but but we had we had uh some differences uh for sure I was
1:25:04
going to bring one of them up and then I thought better of it that might have been some good podcast right there I know I know I know I know I get you I
1:25:11
get you I thought let's tell you what if we have him on again which we should once he gets uh once we stay in one of
1:25:17
his Ys right once it opens maybe we stay in one we'll uh actually what we need to do is get up there
1:25:22
stay in one and get them all liquored up one night and then and then get the cameras rolling and then I will bring up
1:25:30
our little fist fight out in the bush you guys be walking that 1.2 km Trail they
1:25:35
chasing each other that'll be a cartoon right there anyways that was great uh hope you enjoyed it it was uh it was an
1:25:42
obviously a great moment for us to you know just sit back take a deep breath and and walk down memory lane with and
1:25:49
hopefully people look at Mayu station Mayu or manu you can pronounce it either ways but RI said pron both ways but
1:25:55
station Lodge I don't want to understate how important that is going to be for the fishery in that area yeah because
1:26:02
and as much as you know we mentioned the Manu hotel and all that there's very little infrastructure up there uh this
1:26:08
looks like it's much needed and it's going to work out really well yeah excellent that right I want to remind
1:26:15
everybody that these wonderful lovely garments that Peter and I are wearing are available on the shop uh at fishing
1:26:23
canada.com give me a hell yeah thank you thank you thank you Stevie um along with a multitude of
1:26:30
other garments that will be available as well depending on when this airs and
1:26:35
when you're listening to it you might also be able to buy the stuff uh at the Sportsman Show in Toronto because we
1:26:42
will have a booth there oh you're teasing a little bit well and the reason being I I just want to throw this out
1:26:48
there uh if this does air before that event which I believe it's going to oh
1:26:54
God it better anybody that is within shouting distance of uh the GTA that has
1:27:00
been complaining about the shipping charges on the internet not just on our site just internet uh in general this is
1:27:08
your opportunity to say There You Go internet shipping charges I'm going to
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