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our final guest for today um probably in my opinion in terms of a
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sports celebrity in this country not just in appearance but his voice probably one of the most recognized that
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we have and there are some very recognizable ones so for us to be saying that that means an awful lot
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he's a major league baseball uh catcher uh he played uh with i believe kansas
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city if i'm not mistaken yeah and another stop and then and then
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our blue jays he was catcher with the toronto bluegate he also managed the toronto blue jays
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went on to a a tremendous career in broadcast both in canada and the us and this still
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brewers milwaukee brewer thank you and uh is still broadcasting to this day i
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was listening to his lovely voice just two days ago uh his name is buck martinez good morning buck afternoon buck
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how you doing today fellas good to be with you um so first of all you make us look bad
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now you're wearing a shirt and tie so that's that's i got to go change the stuff and go to
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work he's got sports on underneath all that don't worry ann she's got all those cargo shorts on his underwear
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[Laughter] um let me just uh also tell folks that one of the one
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quality about you that we absolutely love not that the other things aren't important but you're a crazy totally addicted
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fanatical angler and we love you for that man that's awesome yeah i am i'm really into
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it and i just heard david talk about fishing on in northwest ontario and i've
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done that uh been up to sioux lookout a few times been to chamberlain arrows a few times and uh i love that kind of fishing and you
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know the guy who turned me onto that was jack morris oh right of course uh from minneapolis
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he would drive up through international falls and then go into sioux lookout
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and fish that great area and uh it's uh you know lak sewell's a pretty special place to fish and we
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we've had some great trips up there that's huge as the as the americans uh not just the
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athletes all americans driving through in that area the port francis area all that area they have such access to lake in the
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woods black sewell all these wubbagoon lakes all these fantastic fisheries and they can actually drive through it where it
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takes it's longer for us to drive to it from southern ontario than it's for a lot of americans to drive to yeah exactly uh one of our producers
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here at sportsnet is from the soup and he would drive up and take him about 20 hours to drive up
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and we'd fly to thunder bay and take uh bearskin airlines into the zoo and uh we were all set up it was pretty awesome
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exactly for any of the ball players who were avid anglers you know being either drafted or traded to the
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minnesota area it was a great great bonus right yeah for sure
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you know minnesota with their 10 000 likes uh it's just an extension of southern ontario up
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there in that great country it's pretty pretty awesome yeah yeah you're from california originally right
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yeah i'm from northern california i grew up uh salmon and steelhead fishing and trout fishing and
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bass fishing on shasta lake and then we moved to sacramento and i got
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into striper fishing in the sacramento river oh yeah you know a big striper uh
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hatchery out there and we have quite a striper fishery all the way from san francisco bay all the way up to uh
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reading on the sacramento river uh but before we get into all that stuff we want to talk to you about uh
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your background and fishing and some great stories i know you've shared with us on the radio show in the past so uh
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but before we get that let's just look at the present uh situation uh the the uh the uh season uh that is
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going on with baseball of course uh you are uh doing the color on this from a
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remote location here in canada to games that are taking place in for
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the most well not for the most part in the u.s and doing it in front of a screen and i
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got to tell you something uh and i'm not a huge uh baseball
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viewer although i will you know occasionally imagine but i got to tell you the job that you guys are doing being
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off location is blowing my mind i don't know how you do it so take a
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minute and just explain how you can make it feel live and that you're there on the field
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but you're not so yeah tell me about that well we uh we are in what is called the tim
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and sid studio and tim and sid have a show on sportsnet of course and they've been kind enough to let us work
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in their studio and we have a monitor that i would say is probably 80 inches wide and that's the one monitor but then we
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have several other monitors in the studio that we have the bullpens the field we have a
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simulation of where the defense is set up we probably have eight or nine different monitors we can
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look at at one time and uh we we do our game off the 80 inch
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monitor and then for anything that's moving around we have one or two cameras that we have control of
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our control in the director in our control room will have that camera so if i ask for somebody if i ask for some
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player they will give me that shot then we can talk about it but uh especially when we're on the road uh you
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know we're at the mercy of the home broadcast crew because they're the ones that are taking the pictures
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right now in this situation all across baseball all the tv crews have been encouraged to
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do a 50 50 broadcast so don't take pictures of a home team all the time
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you gotta have 50 50 mix with homemade visitors and it's actually worked pretty well right
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anybody who hasn't seen tim and sid you got to watch these two guys they are characters man they are funny guys just
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about just in case you know what are you on whatever you're talking about uh uh cameraman and cameras and
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uh producers and whatnot i think this would be a perfect time for us to tell folks what our connection
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is with you and how we go to uh be in touch with you is that we have a mutual friend but uh a co-worker
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uh our very first cameraman on the fishing canada show
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uh his name is todd monroe and you are very familiar with todd because he's been doing baseball for a number of
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years and uh he actually hooked us up so uh hurray for time yeah you know where
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todd and i have worked together for a number of years as you mentioned and he's our center field camera on a regular broadcast and i'm you know
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very good at what he does as you guys know i'm sure he did some great work for you over the years and uh
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but uh you know tom and i were sitting around one day uh having a beer after game somewhere and
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we started talking about fishing and he goes do you like the fish i so yeah i love the fish
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and that's how we got involved in that conversation he said well i gotta hook you up with pete and angelo because
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uh they were great guys to work with and they go fishing all over the place and it was pretty awesome
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yeah he's a great guy he was our very first official cameraman prior to him we had a camera producer
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slash producer uh in the show and then uh we uh hired a todd fresh out of school from the east
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coast it was so fun to work with hey daddy it doesn't matter where he went way up in northwest territories on great
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slave lake and the worst camp of the world and todd just had a great time with us he just brought our our spirits up fully you know what i
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mean good guy and a great shooter great shooter yeah he talked about great slave lake and uh you know
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bear lake slave lake those are lakes that i've always thought about fishing i've had the chance to fish out
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west at campbell river and uh i fished for the thaiy salmon out there and i've done it
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a few times i haven't fished on the east coast uh i fished in the east coast of jersey
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but i fished for tuna uh we caught some swordfish in white marlin about a hundred miles off the
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jersey shore out in the canyon so uh yeah i've been fortunate i've fished in costa rica
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venezuela puerto rico the bahamas bermuda i just caught some
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bermuda uh some wahoo in bermuda last all-star break nice pretty good trip yeah so how do you
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how does it work so you're you're let's talk about when you were when you were a player um how did you
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manage to to get away and go fishing and more importantly did you tell people that you were into
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fishing and uh because and i bring that question up because there's a lot of closet anglers and what i mean by that in their
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profession in their in their in their job they almost don't really want to tell folks that
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they're crazy about fishing were you in that in that category or did you just tell
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people hey i'm going fishing today when i'm not playing yeah no i told everybody and my nickname uh in milwaukee was tour guide
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because we always put up something to do when we had an off day and uh we've done um well a couple years
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ago let's see two years ago we were in miami and uh we took a bunch of our crew and
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went to fisher we caught a bunch of uh dolphin dolphin fish we uh we're off to
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miami about four or five miles and got a bunch of dolphin fish took them back to a restaurant and had a big feast for the entire tv
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crew so we've done a lot of things justin smoke and i two years ago in colorado had an off day we went fly
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fishing got some ground shot caught some rainbow trout and uh yeah i like to fish wherever i get a
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chance and i uh like i said i've had a great trip at los suenos in costa rica
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i've caught the billfish off the coast of venezuela puerto rico dominican so i've been very lucky who it's
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speaking to players buck who is uh in your mind is maybe the most avid or not more crazy about fishing of all
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of the big name players there's a few of them or do you know any that are just saying i'm just like you did i'm fishing on my
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time off that's it is there any player there were a lot of guys that i played with there were fishermen we used to go
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up to the lantern marine on the southern river and fish for bass and everybody thought
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we were crazy because everybody was fishing for pickerel but we would go up there and
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literally catch 200 300 bass in a day but we had a bunch of texans
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we had a bunch of people from louisiana and florida so everybody knew how to bass fish
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right we would get smallmouth and largemouth bass uh all up and down the seven river lantern
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marina was a great place for us but that was back in the 80s and i haven't been up there since and haven't
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done much of that kind of fishing but yeah jim acker jimmy key uh rance molonyx garth orange we all would go up
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there and uh we'd leave after a ball game stay overnight and uh get up the next morning in the dark and
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we knew the place like the back of our hands so we could dodge the rock piles and the streets and all that stuff that
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was pretty cool is anybody on the blue jays roster now that's a crazy fisherman is there anybody i understand that uh daniel vogelback
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who they just acquired is a big fisherman he grew up in fort myers florida right where we have a lot of snook and
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tarpon and redfish and sea trout and all of that so i'm sure he's a backwater uh backcountry
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uh snook fisherman because i don't know if you guys have ever caught a snook but that's to me bench foot that's the
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best fighting fish there is pound for pound i've heard i've heard that uh
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i got a lot of people just the same thing says nuts
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you know you know what you could use as their work under the mangroves and they'll blow it up it's uh
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they'll get to be 40 inches and uh we lost a bunch of them the last couple years with the red tide
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so there's a moratorium on catching them now we won't be able to catch them until september 21 and catch and keep
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everything's catching release right now but another thing not people don't know they are mighty fine-y they're right up
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there with the pickerel really yeah they're very good eating let me just
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stop you for a moment because you just said something that's been uh a word that we've had on our on our
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minds here for some time since we three weeks ago we we threw open the question walleye or pickerel
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and and uh we've had all kinds of uh folks weighing in on it you just said pickerel which is unusual for an
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american to call it i've been up here since 81 angelo so i'm a semi-canadian so yeah whenever we go
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up to the zoo and fish like sewell we all talk about pickerel but yeah we call them walleye of course
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i never fished for him before i came to canada well i never never knew anything about him but uh i tell you one thing there's there's
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no there's it's hard to beat a shore lunch with fresh pickerel yeah
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i've always said buck if somebody could figure out how they could bottle that how they
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could package that they'd make a fortune yeah because there is nothing like it
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on earth and what's beauty about shore lunch is that it doesn't matter whether you've ever eaten fish or not doesn't
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matter whether you like fish or not doesn't matter about any of that everybody who's ever
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sat down to a shore lunch has always had a big smile on their face when they were done and said this is the best
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i have ever had in terms of food oh yeah my son did not eat fish
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for lunch wow yeah he got into fish at that time and he wasn't a big fish eater
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and you know baked beans fried potatoes onions and uh some uh fresh pickles pretty good
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it's as good as it gets there's no epidemic it's converted a lot of people your son included is it converted a lot
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absolutely there's a question right there from rodney sherry lynn buck what is your favorite
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fish fish to fish and bait to use well it's it's uh the snook
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and down in florida and you know i just bought a boat in february so i'm just
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a new boat fisherman but i've always fished with a lot of friends and uh but we like to fish top water
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for uh a 25 30 in snook under the marine groves and you got to
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be quick because as soon as they hit it they're going right back into the mangroves but that and i haven't caught one and we
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just hung one last year or this spring earlier uh garth orage was fishing with me and he
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hung a big tarpon but we didn't we didn't hang it on very long but uh that's pretty exciting too when
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you see a school of eight or ten five six foot tarpon swinging through your back bait that's pretty awesome
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for folks who've never experienced that you have no idea uh the emotions that you go through from
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that very first split second that you make contact with that fish to the time that you release
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it or put it in the boat whatever the case says people have no idea the emotional
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um energy that that goes on inside of you especially on top water baits in the
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mangroves i mean oh god it's just incredible you know i know you know this name you guys have
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been in the fishing industry forever and uh i had a chance to fish with jose wajevi
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in costa rica yeah and we we caught 64 sailfish in three
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days we caught three or four of them on a fly and it was really really fun to watch he
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uh had the mate bring the teaser in bring the fish in close enough to get him into casting
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distance and then he threw out a big feather and and hung a big sailfish it was pretty awesome to
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watch how's he getting that back cast when he's when the boat's trolling that fast
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he's got to be like that back house was being said he was pretty good pete no kidding he was pretty good
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and uh he did a lot of roll casting in that and he could flip it out there pretty good but
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we had the uh the sailfish teased up so close it was probably about a 20-yard cast
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okay and yeah at that time you know they were in a feeding frenzy we literally free on at one time it was
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pretty awesome funny it's funny because i think every great story i hear about bill fishing
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takes place uh off of the uh west coast of costa rica yeah
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uh we we we did a similar thing to you we went out one day and um we
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had 21 uh correct me if i'm wrong pete we had 21 fish on camera that we actually hooked
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up with but there were more that we you know had and lost immediately but 21 that we actually had on
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camera and the camera man was todd monroe as a matter of fact yeah yeah yeah two of those were uh one
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was a black martial one was a striped marble as well now all the sailfish were on the top of that but that was insane
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you know they got rooster fish they got tarpon they got snook they got uh all the billfish offshore but uh the
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weather was incredible i mean it was a like a lake 40 miles offshore and we saw
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spinner dolphins and schools of tuna it was incredible nice but you guys speaking of
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rooster fish have you caught rooster fish on top water
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rooster fish they look great like that looks like a fun fish to go for right they just look insane
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like the snook like that but it's a crazy version pretty special fish yeah will wegman wants to know uh buck
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uh do you follow the bassmaster elite series or any of the other professional bass tournament series in
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the us not religiously but because we live in florida and of course there's so much
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great bass fishing in florida we uh we fish a bit uh garth orange's grandsons live on a nice
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little lake not far from our house so uh they've caught some eight and nine pounders and uh
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they they use a lot of rubber lures and a lot of rubber jerk baits and things like that but uh
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yeah i don't follow the bass fishing like i used to when i lived in kansas city because of course we got uh you know
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bull shoals and tanakomo and all these great arkansas white river area so there's a
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lot of bass fish in there too yeah i would have thought in florida you would have you would have been all over bass down
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there i mean it's just it's probably you know pound for pound uh your best
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shot at getting a 10 pound bass anywhere in the world i mean folks from texas might argue that
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maybe even folks from california might argue that but true in real fact the florida is still
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king when it comes to uh largemouth and california's got lake casitas just north
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of l.a that has a big history of big bass and uh you know okeechobee has got them uh
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they're everywhere down there but there's a lot of uh little we're we're not far from atlanta
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lakes north of tampa yeah all the way in the middle of that uh area there's a lot of
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smaller lakes that are just loaded with bats um pete wasn't that where our friend jimmy
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rogers lived that land of lakes area yeah and and there's just a tremendous
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number well every every pothole has has a bass in there yeah those pits those sulfate pits are
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where they were remember the strip mines and all the other strip pits that's over by lakeland yeah we went in
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there there yeah that's if you can get in there man you can have quite a day but
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the golf courses now and ruin some good fishing oh really is that right oh for sure if you ever
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want to get uh into some of those places i think we can hook you up we have a very good friend down there that you might be
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familiar with his name is roland martin oh yeah uh he um he could get you into
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some of those places so we'll have to uh you might have to get hooked up yeah for sure
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um what's the weirdest okay before we get to tim just hang on to tim leave him up on screen
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what's the weirdest situation that you've been in fishing wise where somebody has
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done a double take and said wait a minute aren't you
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it was uh without question it was in cabo san lucas mexico nice
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uh myself my wife gary carter and his wife were on a princess cruise
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and we got off in cabo and found a small wooden boat with two fishermen in
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it and hired them now you'll understand how improbable this is uh we went down probably two or three
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miles and gary caught a big sailfish like a big pacific sailfish like 125
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pounds uh just by chance got off the cruise ship walked down to the harbor
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found a boat said let's go fishing and these two guys took us out and it was they were really good
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fishermen it was like uh chumming for uh trout in a trout farm
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and they had a couple of sales around and they they chummed them up and they had the live bait and they drew a live
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bait and uh yeah and then we got back to the dock and somebody said aren't you gary carter
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you don't rebook martinez yeah that was a pretty cool moment
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oh that's hilarious by the way by the way we do that uh we have a fishery here on east coast
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of canada for bluefin and uh there's a time it's exciting
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there's a time of year where we do exactly what you just talked about and it coincides with the last day
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of the uh herring uh harvest uh the netting of herring right the very
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last day on the last day tuna opens and what happens is the tuna who have been conditioned to following
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these fleets of hairy boats around because there's free food every time they bring a net up thousands
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of pounds of herring fall overboard right out of the nets and so these two are eating them so there's a
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time of year where if you can you know work it out right you uh you fish adjacent to these these uh the
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last day of the harvest for hearing and you get a bucket of herring and you literally hand feed these fish
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and and see where the biggest fish is as they come up to the surface to eat incredible experience absolutely
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breathtaking um but um they're not small hey aunt
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like seven what uh 600 pounder would be a smart group who's like
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we've got we've got so many opportunities here as as you know they do south of the border um
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our biggest problem is is our window so short chair this part of the world we have to cram
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everything into into a short period of time um especially when it comes to the more northern areas if we talked to dave
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mclaughlin a few minutes ago from lodge 88 you know their window of opportunity is is
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basically four months and that that's if everything goes well you know if they if they have a a recent or a decent ice
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out early in the year uh if it prolongs you know into a week or two
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later they're their windows basically three months 90 days they have to do all of their business in nine days
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but having said that that's why our fishing is so outstanding right they're not pressured 12 months of the
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year exactly and uh even even things like uh and i don't know whether you've had this
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opportunity but i'll ask you having spent so much time in toronto did you ever think of or have you ever
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gone fishing in the toronto islands yes oh you got it okay yeah yeah
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and of course there's big pike around the center big pike yeah and i've fished
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i want to say i'm not sure which river it was it was out east maybe 15 20 miles and
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and caught a bunch of big trout in the spring big rainbows coming out of the uh
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lake yeah real light line two pound four pound line and leaders
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and uh you know little tiny egg balls and uh yeah exactly it's probably ganaraska or
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wilmot or the oshawa creek any of those rivers washable creek it wasn't far okay but boy we've been to them one day
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yeah they're all they're all pretty full of trout when you get nice rain oh yeah goes into the rivers and uh they
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run up that stream pretty good yeah that would have been freaky for somebody to be walking the duffins creek or
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joshua creek area minding their own business and all of a sudden this guy comes walking down the
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path and starts fishing beside you and you look over and you do a double take and say wait a
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minute there's no i look a lot different i got waders armor got a hat on i got sunglasses
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on and nobody recognizes me and now it's even better you can put a covered mask on nobody sees anything
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right there i'm going to give you a quick uh celebrity story that i experienced and
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it wasn't fishing but it was very similar to so i was in vegas a few years ago quite a few years ago
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and it's the wee hours of the morning i get up early and there's nobody in the in the casino
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i go downstairs to have a coffee and i'm sitting at this machine by myself nobody else around anywhere
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right and i'm you know mindlessly playing away and sipping my coffee and i'm cognizant of
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somebody had just come in and sat about you know six or maybe
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seven machines down from me and i'm not even looking and i'm playing and after a while i just glanced over
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and i did one of those and i said to myself my god that's mike
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holmes uh the famous tv uh uh do-it-yourself guy
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but i was too embarrassed and people don't think that celebrities see other celebrities that they don't know
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what to do right i'm too embarrassed to say anything so i continued playing and he continued playing and then at
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some point he walked off and i walked off and and never connected until about two years later
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we're at a charity function and we're at at the cocktail area having i'm having a drink
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and overcomes homes and he says how you doing angelo i said
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fine uh you know mike holmes well i know you are and why not he says you know
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he says there was a guy in vegas a couple of years ago that i almost went over and said hello to
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uh and he looked just like you and it was me so both of us had that same experience
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right but we're too embarrassed to come over and say oh i think most people that would recognize you on the stream or on a lake or
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whatever would probably be too embarrassed to come over and introduce themselves i think you know um i'm going to tell you a
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quick story it was a piece of irony because we were up on lac sewell fishing in a particular small
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arm of a lake uh with a guy that was a guide we've gone to his lodge
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and he was taking us up this one special place and we pulled around the guy and he had
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a kansas city chiefs hat on and i said hey you guys from kansas city he goes hey you're buck martinez
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he was a chiefs fan and a royals fan and he happened to be my dennis father
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yeah no way yeah it was pretty pretty freaky i'm up in the middle of a lake in lac
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sewell you know 1500 miles from kansas city yeah that's always up there it was a great story hey buck you uh do you ever
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go ice fishing uh have you ever tried ice cream do you enjoy ice fishing if you did
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what was that you ever go ice fishing you ever tried either i haven't okay now my friends tell me it's quite a
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quite a thrill pat clara who is our director's brother up in the sioux he sends me pictures all
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the time of him fishing in the winter with big lake trout and big northerns
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and big walleye yeah it looks like fun but it also looks real cold you know i live in florida now so i
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don't know if i could do that you got a good excuse buddy i think you
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want to do is leave florida to go ice fishing
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what did you get uh oh the boat my boat i got a 27 foot robalo center console
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with twin yamaha 200's oh that's a nice boat yeah it's a pretty slick boat and i uh
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got it parked in my backyard i got it on a lift and i can uh just go outside and jump in my boat
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and go down the river nice what river are you on buck where are you what are you what are you running and cloak river
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obviously attached to salt while you get into the ocean from there i'm assuming right but that bubble yeah there's there's snook under my dock we have manatees in
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the river and there's trout and everything and we've got eagles and everything it's beautiful very nice awesome and i'm only 16 miles
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from dunedin spring training oh nice convenient good work
29:47
speaking of spring training uh just just to get back into baseball for just a moment
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um how do you see the the season uh uh you are you confident that that
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the pandemic will not hold us back from having a full 60 game season or you have any concerns
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what's your views on that i think everybody has concerns you just never know what might strike next and it's been
30:10
such a fluid situation of course with the cardinals in miami having their big outbreak and then there have been you
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know the blue jays were affected by the marlins outbreak and the yankees have been affected by the mets
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and you know you just keep your fingers crossed this last week there were no positive tests in major league baseball
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so that's a good sign and i think most of teams are doing a great job and the blue jays have been phenomenal in what they've done
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from the moment they moved into rogers center for summer camp the players have been unified they
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developed their own code of conduct and everybody's following the protocol and uh knock on wood they haven't had
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any positive tests and they've been able to play whenever they have an opponent that is ready to play right
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are you surprised at that with you know being such a young team are you surprised the way that
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they've been able to in my opinion act so mature conditions because this is not easy
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no it's not angelo and they're they're a very mature young group of men and they're uh they're very dedicated to winning you
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know they went into minor leagues they want to win in the major leagues and they have done a great job of
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keeping everybody in line keeping everybody focused and you know i talked to charlie montoya
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every day and he always sings the praises of his players and how well they have done throughout
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all of the adversity first of all not playing at rogers center secondly thought they were going to go to pittsburgh and that didn't
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happen then they thought they were going to go to baltimore that didn't happen so they had to end up in buffalo at salem field that the the blue jays
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front office the staff did a great job of making salem field
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as blue jay uh branded ballpark as they could make it and you
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know it's it's not a major league stadium but uh they have made it certainly feel like a matrix stadium
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you said about the young people on that there's a big difference between a professional athlete and young a young bum that's on a park
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drinking beer on the you know on the beach or something like that they don't really give a these athletes nowadays they're very smart
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people to get to that spot that they're at right now they're dedicated number one their whole lives are about that right i think
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every buck i'm sure included you're growing up you're a whole different person you are you are focused et cetera et cetera so
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to say okay here's the protocol you have to follow in order to keep your game going they're going to do it whereas the average kid
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out there i don't care let's party hugs kisses you know what i mean there's a big difference so
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you know i um for several years i used to speak to the
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canadian olympic team about making the transition from sports to the business world and i told them
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and they were all like well what are we going to do i've never been trained for anything but sports and i said
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you have an advantage over everybody else because you've always been goal oriented you've always been focused
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you've always been on time you have to have a schedule and you have to be dedicated in
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everything you do to perform at such a high level and all of that translates very well to
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the business world and you know it's very true i mean if you get an athlete that is performing on
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the high level and you want somebody in your company uh i would check on an athlete because they
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are all goal oriented motivated disciplined and time oriented they they know that they have a
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job to do and they're going to do it to conclusion hey buck how old were you when you knew
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you were going to be a professional not just a ball player but a professional ball player
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because i i didn't get drafted out of high school i went to junior college uh i never
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thought that i would be a major league player until i signed and that was that reality
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i just played because i loved to play and at that point i was pretty good and i
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signed with the philadelphia phillies in 1967 and that's the first time i ever thought
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wow i'm going to be a professional baseball player so when you were like 16 years old let's say you know early teens or whatever
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you're like obviously you're playing baseball back then not to brag or anything but did you know you had some god-given good talent right
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then and there and everybody else was saying oh my god this guy's a great player catcher whatever position you played et cetera did you know right
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there hey i might be not too bad at this game no i i really didn't pete i uh i went to eugene oregon and played my
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first season and uh at one point i i was in a little bit of a slump and i called my dad and i
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said i don't think i can do this this is uh this is harder than i thought and he said well
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what are you hitting i said i'm hitting 3 24. he said shut up and get back to play
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but yeah i have you know i had done so well as a high school and college player that i
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thought you know that wasn't good enough but my first year i hit 357 in uh rookie league oh yeah i never had
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another year like that obviously but i learned how to catch in the majors uh it took me about five or six years to
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really become a major league catcher and then i was fortunate to play for 17 years and i was on some pretty good teams for sure
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the word here in toronto in this market and you're familiar with it because you've played here you've managed here
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it's a difficult market to to um to keep your head on straight because
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of media because of the uh the uh rabid fans because because
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because it's a different and difficult market to play in how would you assess both as a former
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blue jay player and as a manager do you agree with that comment or not angelo i've never heard that before i've
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never heard that toronto is a difficult place for a baseball player it might be a difficult place for a hockey player
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because everybody is so uh rabid about the maple leaves but when i first came here in 1981 uh we
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weren't very good but uh i met uh peter witterington and uh peter hardy the presidents of la
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bat who owned the team at the time and they were very concerned about making the toronto blue jays a
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first class operation so players would want to play for the blue jays and
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they did it from day one and you know pat gillick was there paul beaston was there
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bobby cox became the manager in 82 and the fortunes turned around dramatically but i have never heard a player
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that has played here complain about toronto uh mark burley
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you remember he got traded from miami to toronto and he came kicking and screaming all
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right bring his dogs up remember that he had to gina's dogs he had a bunch of dogs he
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wanted to bring up but by the time he spent three months here mark burley was
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recruiting players to come to toronto because he played in chicago he was a st
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louis native and when he played for the white sox it took him an hour and a half to get home when he played for the blue jays he
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was on his couch in seven minutes that answers my next question you know
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as a manager of the blue jays how difficult was it recruiting players and it sounds like it was not an issue at all now when you
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think about the the great teams in 92 93
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they brought in free agents that you never would have thought of come here jack moore came after being the star of
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the world series in 91. yeah dave stewart came here dave winfield they had
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david cohen they had ricky henderson they had all those guys that were great stars in the states
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clamor to come to toronto and they loved it and then you remember back then uh the stadium was full every night 54
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people every night yep yeah it was a it was a rock concert every single night from the opener of 89
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until the players strike in 94. do you think we'll ever see another canadian baseball team in the majors
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again i i think the owners are anxious to uh expand
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and i think montreal is a team that everybody's talking about i know warren camardi is involved in the
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group over there that keeps raising awareness about exposed baseball and wants to bring an
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exposed team back to montreal but uh you know
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if you were to ask me today what do i think i don't know what's going to happen tomorrow angelo
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i think the blue jays would be uh i guess they would be quasi-supportive
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because they are truly canada's team coast to coast right i don't know it's uh it's going to
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happen they're going to expand we'll probably have two more teams in another three or four years hey buck i wanted to ask you this
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earlier and i said no i'm not going to be the one somebody will ask and somebody just bailed me out uh philip landry wants to know he says
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please ask buck in the play which he had his leg broken and still threw out the runner at third base and
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did he know that his leg was in fact broken at the time yeah i appreciate the uh the question phillip
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but actually i threw the ball to left field i missed third base
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and while i i had tagged out the first runner and uh i was kind of dizzy and um but i
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knew i was hurt my leg was numb it didn't hurt it wasn't a painful injury but
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i knew i couldn't move my leg because my ankle was dislocated and i broke my leg but i had the ball on
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my glove and i was scooting around to get in position i threw the ball past garth orange and went down left field
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line into the mariners bullpen and george bell picked it up and threw it back
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and i caught it on one hop uh it was a 9-2
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7-2 double play wow jessie barfield threw it to me
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i threw it to george bell who threw it back to me wow and i was sitting on my butt on home
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plate and tagged out the second runner that is awesome oh my god so was that
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was that kind of the end of your career i know you i came back in one more year but at that
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time i was 36 years old i was near the end of my career uh what hurt about the injury that was
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in 1985 was the fact that i missed the playoffs with the blue jays right so that's the difficult part of it
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because i uh i was on that team and i would have been playing and they had three left-handed starters in the series and i would have
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played at least three of those games so that that bugs me yeah who was the catcher who filled in for you
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well ernie with was the defense he and i were doing he and i worked together but they brought up a couple more guys
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after i got hurt right um regrets in terms of
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your professional career yes i didn't manage like i knew i should
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have wow wow so you can actually think back
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and say yes had i done this really let me tell you the whole story
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please gordash hired me as he was my gm and hired me and i
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signed a four-year contract and then he got fired at the end of my first season in 2001.
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so a new general manager came in and uh you know he didn't uh he was uh of the
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moneyball era and he thought that everything should be different and uh i didn't carry out what
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i thought was the way to manage a team that's all
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then i went fishing all as well anyways okay yeah uh
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speaking of fishing um if you and you can but if i'll just put the if
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in front of it if you could put together the ultimate fishing trip and time and money was not an issue
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where would it be and what would it be
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it would be that's a great question there's so many
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things i'm thinking about now costa rica thinking about the marble mountains in northern california
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what it's a wilderness area with uh one lake in there called the
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yukon lake 60 acre lake with brown shout rainbow trout and eastern brook trout
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and we used to pack horses in there and fish as a kid it was phenomenal but if i had
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my all-time favorite fishing trip it would probably be on the mayor
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machine with ted williams wow no kidding yeah i mean he was a
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phenomenal sportsman and i got to know him of course he was the manager of the senators when
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i first came up later went to the texas rangers but most importantly he was a teammate of
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bobby doors and bobby door was a coach with the blue jays when i first got here in 81
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and he was from southern oregon and he knew friends of my family that fished for
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salmon and steelhead on the rogue river and they would come down and fish on the klamath river and
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uh yeah bobby door and i had a lot of talks about ted williams i would have loved to go fishing with him yeah that would have
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been an experience i think for anybody uh yeah and and what a backdrop the mirror machine
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america's favorite place yeah yeah i don't know if you've ever been there or not but um you know even if you're not into fishing
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standing on on any of the the s bends on that river uh you feel
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like you're in a different part of the galaxy it runs through it right yeah yeah yeah
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you're right the thing about ted is ted was such a
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sportsman and you know you guys are probably old enough to remember he represented sears
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for so long yeah and he had a whole line of guns and baseball equipment fishing rods
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everything was ted williams and um he went up the rogue river to fish with bobby door
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and um bobby door always wanted ted to do a video on hitting
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and ted never wanted to take the time to do a video on hitting because he wanted to fish nice nice bobby bobby took him out in
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the drift boat on the rogue river and threw out an anchor and said we're not fishing until you
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tell me what you got a hitting on a video camera he pulled out a camera and videotaped ted williams in the middle of the rogue
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river yeah oh that's a great story
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if if you get back to normal in terms of baseball um
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if you were to get back to normal in terms of baseball next year because obviously nothing is going to
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happen this year but if you get back to normal baseball does that preclude you from going on
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fishing trips nothing stops me from going on fishing trips except my wife
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okay i'll tell you what i'm asking here's
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what i'd like to throw out to you and you don't have to answer it here but i i see about three or four people have
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already mentioned it on uh on this webcast uh the
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guest just before you david mclaughlin who owns one of the premier if not the premier
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operation in northern ontario um we're going to do a contest with him we're going to
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do a we're going to promote a contest with him to try and drum up business back into the north
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for next season obviously i would like to offer to you the opportunity to join us on a trip
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up there with the uh folks that uh we're gonna try and put
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together a trip call it a fam trip call it whatever you want we're both buy uh uh trips to this place
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the same time that we go and i'd like to explain to you if you're here anymore
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okay perfect just give me some notice when it's going to be and i'll take a week
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off and we'll do it perfect that's just sweet in the pot that's beautiful
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i noticed some people they're saying why don't you invite buck invite there you go that was awesome yeah
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i was listening today from talking about it i was writing on the name of this lodge
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first trip there buck we got uh we got a 10 pound walleye we got eights we got sevens we
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got it was like in our first trip there was insane it was like the best fishing we've had all the whole season was crazy
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i fished at uh laksu outfitters in chamberlain arrows and the folks are wonderful we had some
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great fishing my brothers came in from california they had never done that kind of fishing my brothers are big bow hunters and the
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outdoorsmen they understand and they fish like crazy my brother jeff
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my youngest brother has a jet boat and uh they fish on the klamath and uh they do a lot of
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red fishing and my other brother jerry's got a bass boat so they fish on this chester shastard
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and in sacramento river they came up and uh we had a great trip
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hey speaking of jet boats have you ever gone sturgeon fishing no but it's big in sacramento yeah
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it's big they they you know we do the same thing for tarpon when you're sturgeon fishing you put out
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your anchor line and you tie it with a release and a bottle right so when you hook up with a sturgeon or a
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tarpon you release your anchor and you have to chase them yeah yeah yeah so you do that with tarpon as
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well yeah we do that with tarpon too what's really cool about uh about these giant sturgeon
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uh that we have on the west coast is that it's more of a hunt than it is a fishery because uh since
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the uh electronics have become so sophisticated and high tech what uh what the uh
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operators are doing now they're looking for individual fish and actually being able to determine the size of
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these fish six footers and seven footers they're apt to just leave them alone and keep
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going up the river until they see that 10 or 11 or 12 footer and then they'll position the boat ahead of them drop the
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anchor but they know exactly how much rope they need to let out and then you feed the line back to where
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that fish right here and all hell breaks loose i've got the garmin set up in my boat
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and it's uh you know it's it's taken me several months to really utilize all of
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the tools that have yeah it's phenomenal and uh we do the same thing when we're looking for rock
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piles and grouper out in the gulf and yeah you know the gulf is pretty flat but if you
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find a wreck or a rock pile and it's got the side screen and you can check the bottom out on the
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side scan and all that stuff it's uh it's phenomenal what it does but yeah just a lot in the gulf too the uh
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the depth finders and the chart potters and all that stuff that we have and uh like i said i'm a computer nerd
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so it's taking me a little extra time to learn everything that it can offer but it's been great that's the one
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that's the key though to everybody watching is what buck just said there just like bach just like angela just like pete
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it takes time to learn this stuff they don't expect look at it and say there it is there it is but take the time put that screen on sit
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in your boat and look at it the salt water guys for sure they said it's so user friendly
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you touch the pad you touch a thing you expand it it's it's user friendly you just got a good time to use it yep
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you know we're always in such a rush to go fishing that's it if we don't take time to learn
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that you're going to help us fish exactly yeah and you know what's great about this technology is that you can
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practice and learn it off the water if you don't want to take up your time on the water because people
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they're limited to how much time they can spend if you you spend an hour or so every couple of
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days in your garage or at home and wherever you want to do it these units are built to be worked
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with off the water to to to so that you understand how it flows and you understand how to work himself
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my wife has hollered at me many times when i'm sitting up on my boat with the screens on and going what are
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you doing out there i have to ask you does your wife fish
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she likes to fish okay she she grew up in new jersey and
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jersey shore so yeah she's been fishing her whole life yeah oh good good that always helps
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right i absolutely am yeah my good friend garth orange and his wife patty they're always fishing
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with us and garth's got a flats boat and i got the raballo so he's got a he's got a beaver tail flats boat with a 40
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horse suzuki on it so we uh we can go in six inches of water and chase the redfish in the
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in the snook or we can go out in the gulf so we got it covered down there in florida you sure do my friend you have got it
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all covered for sure when um so when when's your next game saturday or or is it tonight yeah
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oh you're up tonight i don't rest up oh well there you go there's an extra
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bonus i'm gonna have to i didn't even know there you go so we'll be watching tonight uh yeah we're doing a game every
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day until september 10th uh prediction for the jays i need to get the
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predictions i think they're going to be in the playoffs they're uh they're pretty good they're only two games behind the yankees right now right
52:33
yeah yeah he's right we know we know all about the yankees they play ten games starting on seventh
52:39
of september they play ten games against the yankees and that'll determine their fate right yeah they picked up a
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little bit of relief in terms of pitching yesterday yeah yeah he's gonna be a
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starting pitcher and uh he should be here he should be in buffalo tonight
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okay so he might pitch in the next couple of days we might yeah wow very good well there you go you
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heard it here buck is saying that the jays are in okay i'm also saying
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that i'm going fishing with you guys next year that's the done deal that's the guaranteed one i'm not
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i'm gonna rule out this year by the way i wouldn't rule it out yet so uh we still might get out this year
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if nothing else locally and spend a day on the bow of a boat i'd love to uh to
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to spend some day chasing down fish whatever it happens to be that'll be awesome perfect hey ants do we have time for a
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lightning round with mr buck oh i think so
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so buck you probably saw on that and last david's last year these little quick questions do you have one word answers or whatever like that as fast as
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it can go okay i'll start it out which does buck martinez like better
53:54
fresh water fishing or salt water fishing uh salt water fishing you never know what you're gonna catch
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very good it could be like i cut a seven foot dusky shark in uh february you could catch grouper
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you can catch macro king macro uh amberjack snappers every anything you
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can catch anything on a given day in the in the ocean and saltwater fish fight like hell too that's for sure right they do quite so
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well let me throw this one before you because you just took away one of my questions by the way thank you mr bowman
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you caught my fish okay if you could only use one of these
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presentations on whatever species you want to fish for fly or spin
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spin okay all right you know what it's um i'm about catching a lot of fish
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well that was really cool i got a two pound trout on a six pound line no i'm gonna get as many
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pictures as i can you're the man buddy you're hilarious i
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agree with you 100 they they they're they're a different breed no fly fisher oh my brother my brother jim's a fly
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fisherman and my other brothers won't fish with him
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that is awesome okay but do you like catching sharks or are they a
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nuisance when you're out in the ocean they're nuisance yeah they really are nuisance because we're fishing for
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grouper and we're fishing for amberjack we're fishing down deep and uh they're everywhere uh in the gulf you
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know gulf of florida they're everywhere we have a lot of bull sharks and dusky sharks and black tip sharks and there's a lot of
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sharks around yeah but you know they're not dangerous or anything you know you just
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get into the boat and you snap the leader and you let them free and uh some of them are pretty good eating i
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would i would never eat a shark i would never kill a shark right but i've heard that of nuisances go ahead answering
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yeah for you then um [Music] if you could do it all over again if you
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could do it all over again broken leg notwithstanding if you will
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um would you choose to be a catcher again or would you pick up another position in baseball no i'd be a catcher again uh when you
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think about it everybody on the field is focused on the catching you get to talk to the battery talk to the umpire you understand that's why so
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many catchers have been managers because they are involved in every aspect of the
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game you have a pitchers meeting the catcher is there you have a defensive meeting that catches there anything involving defense catcher's
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always involved so yeah i think that's right so many catchers have been successful managers in their managerial careers because they
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were always involved in talking about every aspect of the game
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peter beauty okay since you were good since buck was good at both of these i'm
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gonna make it a two-part question because he was a great hitter and a great catcher what
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baseball pitch is harder is hardest for the batter to hit and which baseball pitch is hardest
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for the catcher to catch the first one is without question a
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well-placed fastball really gets away from the fastball if
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you throw a fastball consistently and juan marichelle was a great pitcher
57:23
for the giants and he was a hall of famer pat gillick asked him in cooperstown one time
57:29
he said juan how did you have such great control of five pitches he says no he said i had
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about 11 pitches he goes 11 pitches he goes yeah fastball in fastball away fastball in
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the middle fast focusing well there's six different pitches so if
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you could master the fastball it's still the hardest pitch to hit and the down and away fastball
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is the hardest because it's the furthest away from a batter's eyes right you have to make a judgment is
57:59
that ball good enough to hit or not and everybody wants to pitch up well when you think about it
58:04
the balls up or right in your eyesight so yeah you might not get to all of them but
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when you do you're going to have a lot of success so the hardest pitch to catch with a question
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a knuckle ball i was going to ask you that anyways it was like i had a knuckleball pitcher in anaheim
58:23
bruce del canton and bruce has passed away and bruce and i didn't weren't playing much
58:28
in 73 and and we got to start jack mckeon put us both in the game
58:33
against the angels bruce pitched seven innings i think he had four wild pitches
58:40
i had like four pass balls and they didn't score they never scored and about the sixth
58:48
inning don drivesdale's doing the game with dick enberg for the angels and i heard
58:53
later on that he said hey by about this time buck's going to know everybody's name in that front row
58:59
because he's been back to the backstop all day long
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that's good well i've got a question might not qualify for lighting will we ever see another great knuckleballer
59:15
it takes it takes an unusual set of circumstances first of all you have to be a failed
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conventional pitcher right wow then you have to have enough
59:27
courage and patience to learn how to throw it
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and it just takes a combination and and teams aren't patient enough to allow a
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pitcher to learn how to throw it you know because first of all you don't have a guy that can catch it
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when you start throwing a knuckleball you can't throw it over and it might move a lot but if it's not a strike it doesn't make any difference that's why
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hoyt wilhelm and joe negro or phil necro and eddie fisher and you know
59:59
wilbur wood all the great knuckleballers were pretty special because wilbur wood actually started a
1:00:04
doubleheader one day in chicago for the white sox started both games wow
1:00:10
wow did you catch uh did you catch dicky no never caught him ra had a good
1:00:15
knuckleball too i didn't mean to admit him but he had a very good knuckleball yeah no i didn't that was well past my prime
1:00:22
then oh you got we got one first yeah i'll go first edge what does a 100 mile an hour
1:00:29
plus fastball feel like when it hits the catcher's mitt it's easy to catch doesn't hurt
1:00:37
the harder pitch to catch is a 95 mile an hour sinker like dave steve used to throw
1:00:43
because you have to turn your hand over and that ball would always land right on your thumb
1:00:48
oh if you cut a 100 mile an hour fastball it's rising and it's like a
1:00:54
feather it's light but sinker balls are much harder to catch wow okay last question we're gonna let you
1:01:00
go i honest i'm not gonna go back on this but i have to ask you and be perfectly honest with us
1:01:06
okay because it's impossible otherwise you're not even human you're a superhuman if you
1:01:12
tell me that this is not the case you're known for having
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on the spot instant statistics from every single baseball player that you've
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ever done commentating in color on it's just amazing because because you'll
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come up with the most obscure little stat on everybody no questions are those just
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on the fly or is somebody writing this stuff for you no nobody's ever written anything for me
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so so so how do you know that this guy in 1993 through you know a no hitter or one one
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ball shy of a no hitter and the guy on first dropped the ball or you would have had a no hitter like how do you know this
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stuff angelo i like my job and i work hard at it
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but i have a i have a gift of recall there's no question about that uh louis rivera is our third base coach
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and he's from puerto rico and i played in puerto rico for four years and he always marvels at the people i
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can remember that i played with in 1971 and it's just a gift i have that i have
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recollection but if you talk to a lot of baseball players they can tell you what pitch they hit in
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the fourth inning of the yankee playoff game in 1976. wow and that just it's just part of what
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we do you know it's funny because pete and i are both known in this industry as having
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um well not in the industry in our company in our business here amongst our friends is having a poor memory we both have we
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will forget it by by the end of the day however however to a man and two
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a fish we can tell you of a particular fish that we caught
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many years ago on an obscure little lake and we could tell you what bait what size what depth
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what time of day we did it so i understand what you're saying it's just one of those things right your
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job and that's what we do we remember fish and present the three of us
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are pretty fortunate because we have jobs that we love so when you have jobs that you love
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everything is good about it and there's nothing to forget you remember every day that we're at the ballpark every day that you're in
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a boat every day that you're with your house fishing it's pretty special and it's a great way
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to throw this out and say we loved having you on today man awesome buddy awesome well i enjoyed it
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as well it's always great to talk to guys that love fishing that's for sure we we uh we look forward to our get
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together we look forward to getting you out uh on a boat here locally we look forward to
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perhaps getting together with you in northern ontario uh with a bunch of of the fans that are watching today and
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uh more importantly i look forward to watching tonight i'm sure great about that all right you
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guys uh i look forward to spending some time with you on the water that would be a fun experience for sure well that's
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wonderful take care my friend we'll talk about that thanks guys uh buck martinez does it get any better
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than that yeah that was a great little show just like we had all kinds of different aspects of fishing and you end up with buck
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martinez wow that was fantastic buddy and well done jordan and mike and sarah and everybody
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who set this show up too fantastic well done i am so excited
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about sharing a boat with buck oh yeah i think that is the only way it could be
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better and i'm already thinking about this okay the only way it could be better is to be
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on a boat with buck and roland martin that'd be a good one wouldn't it
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huh that would be a good one ah maybe that could that would be some fun
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fishing right there oh rolly entertaining us buck raiden maybe what we do we we build
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this contest that we're we're about to unveil uh we give away
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one of the trips to lodge 88 right
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but we we do a fan trip at the same time where people can buy into that trail and
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we we put celebrities like buck and navy roland there at the same time that's not bad we
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can work on that we can work on that and we'll throw you and me in just as a bonus how's that
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they don't even want us now you're just sweetie in the pot so well they could boom and viola stay home you're done