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hello angelo hello peter how are you doing buddy i'm all right how about yourself good
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welcome everybody uh another fishing canada live thanks for joining us today he is pete i'm ange
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uh we got some guests today we haven't had guests on the program for a long time yeah yeah our very good friend the doc
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appearance did a surprise attack on us we just got a hold of him this morning finally and doug says yeah i'm on boys
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let's go for it okay we're not turning down the dock ever ever
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tony good afternoon you hosers
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uh before we uh we do that though we've got some news items you wanted to start with pete today yeah
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in case uh hopefully some people are still going to our news part a new section of our website uh the
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three latest news pieces we put up are very interesting i will just quickly get into it you can go
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to the site to check them out for sure but unfortunately there was a death during a an mlf a major league fishing
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tournament a 77 year old co-angler so not the guy that runs the boat with the co-angler we don't know the real story
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engine i don't know the real story on this one yet the full story we do know that he passed away and then his uh partner tried to save him
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we heard he's fallen off the boat but then we heard he fell off the dock beforehand so we're still kind of figuring that one out but
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um you know what we at the end of this piece we we always say wear
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your personal flotation devices all the time and these tournaments they don't wear them all the time they wear them when the boat's underway and
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when you get to the spot they flip them off and they fish right so it'd be nice to have everybody wearing them all the time
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like like we do and then profess to do now so that's on the site go ahead and you want to talk about that for a second or yeah
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there's harold from uh saint john hey hero harold how are you doing harold yes sir carol yeah like pete said
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we don't know exactly what happened and it's highly unlikely that the gentleman was wearing a life
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jacket um very in fact it was an interesting stat when we were looking at the numbers
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interesting stat that i ran across um i can't remember where i found it but
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anyways obviously on the internet somewhere that uh 12
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this is this caught me a little bit off guard because you automatically assume if you've got a life jacket on you're
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not going to be a casualty well 12 of the water fatalities
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over the last i believe five years uh they were wearing uh personal flotation device of some
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kind so we don't want to rule that out in this case uh we're going to get more details and fill
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you in next time around for sure yeah let's just say you got a better chance of surviving with with your personal floatation device on
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than tucked away in a compartment that you can't even get to certainly let's let's be honest with that one right so
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i mean if you bump your head if somebody bumps their head there's always accidents upon accidents and then you just can't help but
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but we we strongly suggest wearing your personal floatation devices the next story we
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have up there ants found this one uh in the detroit river a 240 pound lake
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sturgeon was caught in the detroit river on april 22nd just this past april 23. hey diner sorry
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and they uh and as brought up a point you know wonder canadian sturgeon lake sturgeon are
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bigger than american lake sturgeon and in in fact he found one the biggest one there's a good
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story to read it all with the down to the bottom of it the oldest recorded lake sturgeon is 155 years of
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age from lake huron and uh that i think that fish was 447 pounds
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something like that no that was the oldest fish the biggest fish was caught in manitoba
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at 404 yeah 185 kilograms 150
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gold that fish the interesting part of that whole thing is this at the very last thing this lake sturgeon eat both
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plants and animals yeah lake sturgeon eating animals i wonder what they eat for animals like what the hell would they be
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eating good you know what i mean yeah fish would they eat a muskrat do you think or
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something like that i guess probably i would say we fish sturgeon out in western canada
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in the fraser river and of course uh this is not the same sturgeon right let's not confuse the two
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fresh water and then you've got the white sturgeon which is the one that we fish for in western
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uh in the out of the pacific um they're uh an incredible animal and they grow to
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humongous sizes yeah yeah in fact i think they've got records of 12-foot plus fish
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over a thousand pounds so quite a bit different but those that don't eat anything i mean we
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use we we use anywhere from uh what they call ditch eels
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which is nothing but a big glorified do worm but they're massive um parts of of salmon which is always big
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row uh any kind of carrying that you can kind of drift around on the bottom the sturgeon elite so it was no surprise
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to find out that our lake surgeon are you know they'll be both uh plant and uh
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and meat as well the freakiest thing that ever i ever did when we were sturgis fishing is
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when we were out there is when vic first pulled out one of those salmon heads uh salmon had that big and great big
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circle hook right through the whole head and some really nice come on they don't eat that so you watch it happen
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uh and the last news story uh this is a really good one for everybody here to uh to go and read up on the fishing
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cannon news you're gonna see about a guy that got charged for having over his possession of walleye
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and it's important to know that your daily limit and your possession limit are two
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different things in the sense of the law but they could be the same number it used to be back in the day when i
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started fishing when i started fishing that was always pretty much double right angel it used to be if you had sick if you're allowed
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six pass a day to keep a day you were allowed 12 to keep in your possession okay this guy he got
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charged because he was out fishing he had four in the box in his boat and then the game wardens went check this house and he had four
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more in his house and in fact that possession limit there was the same as the daily limit which is
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four fish now four fish in your boat for fish in your possession anywhere in this world so you have to remember i
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mean these fishing rules in every province i'm sure everywhere there's fishing and i know in canada it's every province
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they're there for a reason and you have to know them it's like seasoned you can't fish out of season you can't you know it's the same thing you're breaking the
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law this guy got charged for those four extra fish he got charged a thousand bucks a pop so he got four thousand dollar fines
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and lost his fishing privileges for two years because of that so just keep that in mind that you need to
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know how many you can catch keep and how many you can keep in your house your freezer everywhere you go because if you're
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thinking if you have two people in your household you and your wife but you only have one license
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and you're thinking hey i can keep four for her too she doesn't have a license you're over the grover you're done you know what i
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mean so it's very important to look at those a lot of people you know get so excited when the
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season's open they just go out fishing assuming the old rules apply and you got to check them all hey there was a nick can you put up the
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uh the uh message yet up there from chris from quebec um from quebec he says he caught a
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four-foot surge in this past fall now before all of you from ontario go
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running to your uh information hotline and turn chris in uh quebec quebec has
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different rules and regulations in terms of sturgeon fishing here in ontario of course they're completely shut down have been uh
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well before i was even started fishing they were already closed uh but in quebec there they still do
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allow uh some first of all some areas some seasons and um they actually are allowed
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to keep i believe it's one fish uh per season if i'm not mistaken oh really yeah
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yeah yeah maybe maybe chris could verify that for us we know it's legal abyss for them and they do it on the saint lawrence all
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the time right yeah the dams and stuff like that so very uh and and there there are lots of
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youtube videos and stuff out there if you want to look it up at the quebec but what ann said is another important law
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remember that ontario you cannot even target sturgeon do not catch them do not target them if you if you
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incidentally catch one you gotta flip it off as fast as you can and let it go or cut your line whatever it is so
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very little note about our surgeon here by the way there aren't any studies being conducted
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uh there's very little known and i often thought about this we're presuming
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we're presuming they're still in danger or on the the list right but right having been
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off limits for both commercial and um and uh recreational anglers
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um i wonder you know is it just a case we're sort of out of sight out of mind
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because you know we see all kinds of them when we're out fishing especially in the great lakes and the st lawrence
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right yeah because i've heard i heard the
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rainy rivers loaded with them again like they used to be it used to be good it used to be one of the best fisheries for sturgeon before
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and then you know they stopped at a prevent province wide but maybe there's certain areas they could open up to
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sturgeon fishing especially in rivers right like st lawrence i don't know but you're right it's it's a it's a great question i don't know if there's
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creel studies or netting studies there's teddy from boston yankee there's our yankee buddy yeah
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baby um yeah just uh be careful check out the
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the regulations in your area to be safe nothing nothing worse than getting charged for for a violation that
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you didn't legitimately didn't even know you were doing so yeah so luke luke luke gerrard says only
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above valley field on the saint laurent so so that's the you know uh the correct part sort of like that so
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thanks luke um now today we're going to talk a little later on the program uh
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we're going to talk about the contests the two contests that we've got going on right now especially the uh the
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great ontario getaway giveaway that uh is in its second phase it's second month
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and we had five winners uh selected last week and congratulations to all of them
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we're gonna go over some of the the things that i think a lot of you are missing out on uh it's that easy to win those five people
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at one didn't just uh wake up one day and say i'm going to win it they worked hard and we want to talk to you about how you two can win
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this incredible contest um in the months to come but before we get
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to that uh something else that in terms of regulations was announced on this program and in fact
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then we actually had the minister come on uh several months later and uh and talk
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about it as well as another regulation that the ministry of natural resources had put through and i'm talking about the
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honorable john yakubuski who has been on the program several times uh one of the things they they did this
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year was to extend um the bass fishing uh catch and release bass fishing season
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um from january to may in uh zone 20 here in southern ontario
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and immediately it caused a bit of controversy here within our own organization never
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mind across the the nation if not uh province if not nation
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and that is you know the ethical part about fishing for a species that
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we've always had closed before it was allowed to spawn
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and so um we actually had a poll on the show and the results were kind of interesting
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although i i have to say i was shocked that 75 of you think that it's a good
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new regulation that you can go out and fish for these fish albeit catch and release only uh that you can
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go out and fish for them and um and everything is cool everything's fine only 25 agreed
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with those of us who think that it's that one time of year where we
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probably should give them a bit of a break we've got such a tremendous
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uh bass fishery in this part of the world that i'm always i'm always uh leery about changing
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things because one little tiny little change could make the whole the whole thing
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collapse and it always frightens me because we have such a great bass fishery it always frightens me to
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to make changes like this and the reason i'm bringing you all this up there was a wonderful article by our good friend
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gord paiser in uh this uh issue of outdoor canada magazine their
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uh e issue um that dealt with that and uh it
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i i i will say it's shocking some of you might disagree pete you might not agree uh with that
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but um i found the results of this was shocking because we've never really had
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conclusive studies done before there's been there's been there's been enough uh scientific evidence to prove that it
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may or may not harm uh the reproduction cycle of bass when we catch them out of now i
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won't say out of season when we take them off of bed even temporarily but we've never had a
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study like this where it is just black and white uh
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that's a keyboard that is a key at what you're talking about is that from from ice out
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okay for instance zone 20 closes on monday right from zone from ice out to zone 20
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and zone 20 to monday there will not be one bass on a bed guaranteed that's guaranteed so you're
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definitely not talking about betting fish in there what you're talking about is a whole different story for sure these are fish that
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move in and they're on their beds and they're usually the males guarding and then people are going to catch them there's a that's a big it's a
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you know that's that's like picking cherries the problem is you'll see from the study
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is that as we know you know there's a lot of factors that that will drive a fish to get into that
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reproduction mode and it's not a calendar it's not a date
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it's all based on on temperature and and suddenly moon phase and there's
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this there's all sorts of uh things that we have to consider and when you establish dates hard
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fast dates they don't always coordinate with nature no i agree with that 100 but i can
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guarantee you that zone 20 right now the water is just
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hitting 50 degrees now just hitting so always up into the 40s up until basically up until it closes so
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they're not going on the nest until 60 you know 65 whatever it is so just to let everybody know that date
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might mean something but the temperatures mean something the temperatures are very low still to this day this is attached to lake
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ontario too right it's all the coldest water you're gonna have so and all the runoff from up north so so we invited uh uh the dock on the
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program today uh to um to sort of debate this and and i know what his views and
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opinions are this gord and i have been talking uh about this very issue for
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years on the radio program and um so i'm not uh i'm not gonna hide the
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fact that i know he him and i are like-minded when it comes to this sort of thing and he's experiencing
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it firsthand in northern ontario where they have a wide open fishery
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basically albeit catch and release for their bass and he's been uh he's had
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a very strong opinion on that right from the day that that opening keep mike court spent the first 20 years of his
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professional life with m r uh and uh out in the field
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and studying this stuff so uh he certainly knows a thing or two uh oh yeah about it oh
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yeah for sure we got gordy there he is hey look at that guy what a handsome
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that is
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doing good man good what a good sight to see on a friday afternoon right there hey what a great start of a weekend
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right there thank you gordy you don't have to say a word hey by the way i'm pissed at you
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i tried to get a hold of you for a week and i finally gave up and i said pete can you reach out to the doc and see
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like he won't respond to me i've tried i've tried leaving a voicemail i've tried sending him the text messages
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just see if you can and he he sends you one message at booth he's probably sending it on the right
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number in the right
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i was just articulating the subject matter that uh that you wrote about in that
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wonderful outdoor canada uh piece that uh it sent shivers
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down i hope down an awful lot of vast anger spines because if there was ever
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anything that uh that was conclusive in in terms of studying if fish
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especially bass uh mortality with uh with betting fish this was it yeah and fantastic job on uh
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on picking it up and pointing it out to us maybe you can just uh bring the folks full circle on this and tell them what to what we're talking
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about yeah um you know i want to back up just one second to your adaptive management strategy uh
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down in the zone that's open for the first time ever and and pete's right um insofar as
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you know from its pre-spawn so the fish are not on beds
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and to be totally honest there's nothing wrong with that uh likely nothing wrong at all it's
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catch and release they're not on bands it provides you with additional experience if you will
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additional opportunities and it's and bruce tufts i believe bruce had a lot to do with that
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it's phenomenal good adaptive management we will see what it leads to
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i think probably uh a really good results and that's not what i'm going to talk
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about right now uh because pete's right when water temperature hits 60 and that is about the magical
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temperature high 50s maybe 58 59 but once it consistently
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gets 60 that's when they come on beds and there has been some research
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30 years 30 years in the making and it is so
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conclusive uh and and i all i'm doing is reporting on it
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uh the the the folks that have done it is dr david phillip and david
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is the head of the uh conservation ahead of the counterpart to m r in illinois
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but here's the most amazing thing the research was in cooperation with omnr
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and it was carried out in southeastern ontario so it has a phenomenal ontario flavor to
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it the reason believe it or not uh that part of it was carried out in
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southeastern it's the only area in the world with a closed protective bass season
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which is from my perspective phenomenal um southern ontario here's what i've said
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guys and you've heard me say this when you look at bassmaster flw all the tournaments
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in fact scratch any bass angler on the planet and say where do you want to fish for smallmouth
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they will tell you ontario portion of lake sinclair ontario
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portion of lake erie lake simcoe uh lake ontario around the kingston area
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and the saint lawrence river in ontario and you keep going why in ontario yeah
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they have a tournament on lake sinclair every boat rushes across to the ontario
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side they have a tournament on lake erie every boat rushes to ontario they have a bass master event on the
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saint lawrence river and they rush the guys will boat so that they fish for 90 minutes of the
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entire day to get down to lake ontario what is the one thing all of those areas
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have in common a closed protective season in the spring
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it's as simple as so david has spent 30 years when i'd say 30 years they are
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they have snorkeled watched the beds counted individual eggs
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in the beds for 30 years they have followed the young of the year after they hatch
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and then they come back the next year and say how many young one year old bass that hatched the
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year before and guys it i'm just reporting on this it has showed there are no
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if ands or buts about it you can at a minimum double triple the population have big
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and we know this we see it on simcoe we see it on the st lawrence we see it in the southeastern ontario
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the way you do it is you protect them when they for four weeks you protect them when they spawn and
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they pre and year classes are dependent on how many young of the year
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are produced that year it is as simple as that but the frightening part is as they have
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monitored for 30 years they have seen some of the pop and one of the lakes was opinican
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in southeastern ontario they've still seen the bass numbers start to decline dramatically 40
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percent fewer eggs in the nest 40 percent uh poorer survival
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and they were wondering why every single bass every single fish had three to four hook
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wounds in the mouth and what that means gord of course i read the article it was fantastic
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is that that fish has been pulled off the bed two or three times during that particular season and each time
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that that happens there there is a reduction in the the stock right that this is
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offspring so um that that to me that was one of the really uh interesting parts of of the uh
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of the study but the one that that you know was really that knocked it home to me was that uh
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those four lakes that they worked with that were closed to all fishing so they were able
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to regulate it themselves and do various tests it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt
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that we cannot mess with this fish when it is spawning and and they were going to carry that
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study out for i forget what i think it was 20 years eight years they were going to they were absolutely
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after eight years they said what why do we need to it is so conclusive
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that if you fish for them on the beds you you wipe the population down 50
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yeah you know people need to realize too these people that are watching us right now um bass are a different breed too
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so bass are one of the few fish that actually sit and protect the male stales and stays with the nest and the eggs and
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protects those whereas other fish the trout they drop their eggs they take off walleye i believe they do the same thing they drop
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their eggs and take off they don't sit there and protect their do they gourd i think we don't think walleye do either right do they you see
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you see walleye are spawning as we speak at least right here on lake of the woods right a 10 pound walleye she will lay
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300 to 500 000 eggs one one fish
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three a third to half a million eggs a female bass and a male will protect a
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couple thousand that's the difference right all right one walleye will lay half a million
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a bass will lay 2 000 but it but the male will protect them with his life
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so you wind up with 3 4 coming to adulthood in both cases
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the difference is the walleye lays half a million the bass lays a couple of thousand but
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the male protects them if you don't allow within eight minutes they wipe the
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perch rusty crayfish gobies within eight minutes the nest is rated
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and that's it that's why i brought that up to everybody because because it's pretty it's
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it's damn easy to see smallmouth bass locked on a nest first off you see the
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nest from 25 30 40 feet away depending on the water clarity or farther and you just go up and oh there he is
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sitting right there it's so it's it's like cherry it's cast out i think i'm going to get if he doesn't bite one
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thing you might get another so that's the problem with this too is that it's such an easy way to catch a smallmouth bass that's the unfortunate
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part about it we've all done it let's not get ourselves everybody watching this and the three of us sitting here right now
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we've all done it we're all guilty of having done it before i mean tournaments in the 70s and the 80s
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here in southern ontario they they're the first tournaments of the year they were all about spawning and betting fish if you if you couldn't
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get a betting fish you weren't winning a tournament so we've all done it we're not saying that we're above it by any means but
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but like everything else we've learned and we've evolved and that's why this new law by the way
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is brought in because what answers talking about when him and reno for instance fit i didn't deficient too much but over in kingston
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to this day to last year up until last year when the season was open it's just when those fish are starting to move on
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those beds are finished to spawn that male is sitting there that five pound smallmouth bass a 25 five pound small webmaster sitting
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on the nest after the season is open so that's why they did the zone 20 extension as well nobody seems to be talking about that
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but they've also closed the smallmouth season two more weeks into july so now tomorrow's from the old
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opener so that's going to help somewhat i don't know how long if it's going to be long enough but at least it's going to help a bit but yeah yeah because on opening day on
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on the great lakes those fish are locked on a bed those big five pounders and they're just okay i'm gonna get you and
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you and you and go way in so it's it's believable that's easy even even more bizarre men
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is is up in my neck of the woods here the season is open you it's catch and release during
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the they have done that intentionally to help destroy the vast population yeah we heard that we didn't hear that
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so if the bios are doing it up here to destroy the population right
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there you guys should be doing the very opposite because exactly you know what they'll say is oh
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well bass are an invasive species or non-native and you go and this has always been my
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argument it's 50 miles from here they are native
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it's the height of land where the so are you telling me something is not not not native over 50 miles simply because
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of the way the glacier retreated yeah but that's how bizarre we can become and then
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and then what i also say is talk to me about pheasants in the dakotas talk to me about rainbow trout in lake
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ontario and the great lakes and fishing and then the same bios that are talking
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to me about bass not being native are planting rainbow trout and all of these stock flakes you go well wait a sec
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walleye here's even something more bizarre while i are not native to all the kawartha lakes
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they were planted so are you really saying we should remove now walleye from many of those kawartha lakes where they
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are exotic invading species it's happening right now on the
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east coast i mean musky i mean let's be honest about it they're going through that same process
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right now with husky right so listen it's a never-ending that's going to be a never-ending cycle hey gordon
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the bios are they want you to destroy the smaller population we heard that is to help the trout population is that
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is that the case or what is the reason for that you know i i spoke with barry corbett one of our
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our m our bio bios barry used to work for me and spoke to bear the other there's no
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evidence i mean every time you have fish often there's some some uh oh definitely interspecific
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and interest specific competition um in the springtime they'll come up there
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so if there's one crayfish it can be eaten by a lake trout or it can be eaten by a bass if it's
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eaten by the bass absolutely that was the crayfish that wasn't available for electric the question is have they
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suffered and there's no evidence that shows they have suffered as a result
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so yes there's competition but the question is have they suffered as a result of the competition and the answers
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generally no the other thing that that david phillip was talking about and this was brilliant
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is you'll often hear folks say um but there's so many bass hatched that
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nature produced so many of these that uh it doesn't really matter what the
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what whether anglers uh fish for the monbiz because nature produces such a surplus and as
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david said not only is there not a single study whatsoever to prove that every single
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one that has been carried out disproved and his now as a result of 30 years is
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is it's amazing it's simply amazing and and i'll be honest guys if
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you don't want bass by all means angle them on the beds yeah i'm not
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saying that you should shouldn't whatever but now that we know you tailor your management spread
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don't keep saying the same things that has no impact as david philbin his work is all being
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prepared right now for publication and i spoke to david just yesterday in
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fact he's out doing research right now and documenting more it's all coming up for peer review um
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anyways it's a fascinating story and one everybody that fishes bass should uh
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should read up on and get better educated you can start with the um article that the doc put up in outdoor
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canada magazine that will lead you to the fascinating study uh by dr phillips
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it's it's a must read if you're into i guess if you're in the bass machine if you're into fishing
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this is a must read one of the best reads that certainly i've encountered in a long time and i thank you for that doc um somebody
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wants to know about the walleye situation how's it coming along up in the lake of the woods
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well it's it's it's unfortunate but it's not um it's been clearly determined again
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through uh fall walleye netting index netting surveys and spring index netting
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um lake of the woods right now the walleye population in lake of the woods
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is in the most severe state of any major walleye fishery in
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ontario and our problem guys we're so good at what we do i mean
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and i'm lame and you guys we're all to blame um we have educated folks we
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we know what to do and i i've said this many times in the old days we used to spend eight ten hours
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looking and one hour catching and now we spend all day catching and it's it's it's not a problem with
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the rod makers the boat makers or sonar makers they're not the problems we
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got to look in the mirror if we're now catching 20 30 40 fish a day
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you can't throw five of them to eagles you can't go and have a shore lunch dump all your cooked fish and go out and
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catch another limit and lake of the woods is in trouble it is in major major trouble and i was the dm
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here and the results are very similar to the winnipeg river when we did the walleye index spring and
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fall netting we could not find a walleye in the winnipeg river over 18 inches that's how we we brought
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it down to its knees and on lake of the woods we're unfortunately we're within
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a 10-hour drive of a hundred million people and the walleye fishing's in
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trouble so the ministries put together a working group i know what they're they're looking at and
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the limits have to come down i know what they are for lake nipissing they're looking at nipissing next year
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a slot of about 15 to 17 and a half inches two walleyes nothing over 18.
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and you know what i i severely hope we bring that in on lake of the woods um we need
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that well that worked really well i was speaking to uh steve uh that's wiki the other night about
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that of course he had uh showed your lodge on the french river for for over a decade and uh he thinks it's
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a great move that they're implementing on uh on how will that affect the us tourism
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board how do you think the americans will still want to come up for their pickportfishing and et cetera et cetera is it going to slow
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that down to once mortars open up you know get back to normal yeah you know
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actually raise a really good point there peter let me come back to that because here's the other thing that was so great
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about that bath study and you just twigged it with the with tourism
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what happened last year and this was absolutely brilliant david's work is ontario had a covered
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lockdown and so when was the lockdown by pure
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luck by pure coincidence the lockdown in ontario was during the spawn
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and so boat ramps were closed anglers within ontario so toronto ottawa kingston wherever were
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asked to stay home don't so it was the one year in the last
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30 where the bass were able to be protected during the spawn and tell me when do you
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think the best year class they've ever recorded in 30 years occurred yeah yeah
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it's worth it yeah yeah back to your question about tourism
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um and i'm sure it was like what happened down your way la tourism here on lake of the woods in
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terms of angling last year was unbelievable uh we had a gas station in kenora on labor day
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set a a one-day record for boat gas sale three times higher than their ever
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highest sale and they ran out of gas we all had time on our hands
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folks from winnipeg kenora wherever and so all we did was locally
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and within canada we made up for the lack of american tourists by being out on lake of the woods and
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wall island so it's and now here's the more
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interesting thing too i see in minnesota they're big walleye openers tomorrow
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they've asked people within minnesota to go to two fish limits and none over 18 because they can't get
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to canada and they're afraid what's going to happen is that huge bottleneck within minnesota tomorrow everyone's
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going to go out keep limit right and you go you know we're finally
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starting to learn the only thing we can hope is we're not learning too late yeah absolutely great point luke wants
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to know about muskie on lake of the woods george you know musk muskies and i i did the
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the big musky odyssey seminar a couple weeks ago and again you know it really relates
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luke's got a good question there relating to what we've been talking about baths and walleye
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on lake of the woods the minimum size is 54 inches so the seasons close to protect them
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during the spawn minimum size is 54 inches and they're doing
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very well and you go again if we don't need to do a lot of these huge
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management things you know people talk about hatcheries and on and off if we give fish if we protect them when
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they're spawning and we give them good habitat by and large they look after themselves
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and muskies by going to 54-inch minimum size on them protecting them
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when they spawn on these same lakes that are having populations crashing on other species
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muskies are doing very well and you go what's the difference oh we're protecting and when they spawn
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and we have decent regulations gord this might be a dumb question but with
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the walleye population drastically going down will that affect the musky's growth in
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their feeding because i'm sure they feed on muskies somewhat but i mean they must have a wide variety but will that affect musky's growth rate
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it's a great question pete but the reality is uh and and diet studies are hard to do
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with muskies obviously because the only way to diet them is to open them up dissect them and the
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last thing we want to do is kill 54-inch but the the the vast majority of work that has been
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done uh dr castleman with the clytherum project uh castleman crossman uh and that was
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over 20 30 years the vast vast majority of forage that muskies are eating
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is thing are things like catfish believe it or not bullheads showed up prominently suckers
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tulips whitefish walleyes and baths surprisingly
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very very little and in minnesota where they've done a lot of the work uh virtually no impact overlapping the
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two species they they do not overlap i mean for sure a musky's gonna eat a walleye
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but i will guarantee more muskies get eaten by bigger walleyes when they're two three inches and they're so cute um
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you know it's nature's way you poor little muskies they don't know what they're missing those pickles are
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pretty good eating i'll tell you thank you thank god you don't know thank god maybe the exterior tastes like crap
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who knows have you um have you started venturing out uh up there gord
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i have i'm i'm every year i set some little projects for myself and believe
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it or not i'm looking at some really really unique ways uh for
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whitefish in the summertime i i do think they're an underutilized species you guys know this you've been
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up to hawk lake and over by uh dog tooth where they represent
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one third of the population in the lake and these are five six seven eight pound fish and so i've
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got some really cool techniques and i've been out looking for them uh doing some lake trout chasing but
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chasing uh rainbow trout and speckles in the stock lakes in fact i'm going again for
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brookies on tuesday so yeah i've been it's beautiful weather and the
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we're ice free and and we're 70 of normal precipitation so lake of the
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woods was about five feet lower than normal so we need one badly
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i guess it wouldn't be right if we didn't ask you about uh the covet situation in your neck of the woods
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uh i gotta touch wood because we're relatively good um relatively uh within kenora northwest
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ontario and and uh as i say we're relatively good and we're hoping it stays that way
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our real concern and it's no disrespect to tourists or whatever but you know until
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everyone gets vaccinated um really don't want to see massive amounts of folks from elsewhere
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whether they're toronto or winnipeg or the united states come and visit us well boy if there's any lodge owners
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listening they're not happy with that comment you just made i'll tell you that right now i'm more i'm more interested in my kids
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and grandkids i got to tell you that yeah sure give us all the second dose they can open the border tomorrow
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yep absolutely yeah it's a strange time we're all living in it
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it's very surreal there's there's the curse and that is may you live in in in interesting times and that's what
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we're living through gordy tell people where they can uh reach you read you uh
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uh uh get all that wisdom that we're so lucky to get here ourselves outdoor canada.ca or just
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go on facebook and there's there's my name uh just google my name there on facebook
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and you'll get it and uh um an outdoor candidate and of course go fish in ontario are good friends at
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ontario tourism and and i'll here i'll put a real good plug in for uh algoma uh pick up al gomez travel
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brochure and i did a piece with ange and pete uh why and why algoma is such a
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phenomenal location it's right at your doorstep in southern ontario and it's the north so um
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you guys have got it great you've got all the luxuries of urban living and you got algoma so
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close to you perfect what's the uh name of the article in outdoor canada guard
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that we talked about today um um uh oh you know
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you taught me but i'm i'm not responsible for the headlines they they got specialists that that grab
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people and if they go to the outdoor canada website it'll be gordy's latest you go to the fishing department on the
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outdoor canada website gordy is the man of the fishing department and you will see a ton of his stuff and this is the latest with oscillations
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it has something to do with the pandemic the headline is something you know how the pandemic can save bass or something exactly and you
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got it thanks for joining us buddy really appreciate it all even though you don't return my calls that's all right
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listen pete give him my new give him my new email from two years to go he's
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there okay buddy i think it's about time he gets it now right i think again for the fifth time
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my friend uh stay safe and uh we'll talk to you soon good morning thanks buddy here
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boyd piser the dock we i love when that guy comes on he's just a a breath of fresh air for
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sure oh my god you know and by the way not everybody agrees with gord i i learned this you know doing 20 years
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of radio with him that not everybody agrees with him so so so don't think that everybody just
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bows to him there's a lot of people disagree with everything he says however
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yeah oh there's people that just absolutely and you know it's one of those personality things but
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i got to tell you something you will not find a more passionate honest straightforward dude in the fishing
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community than what paiser and i don't know how you could not believe at least
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some scientific fact if you can't if you could say gourd buzzer you're lying about it in a scientific fact then
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you got some issues out there that's for sure some people don't want to listen to science i mean there's a whole
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other world out there that doesn't believe science should have anything to do with fish and wildlife management
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we know we know them they're out there and they're they're uh they're out there and then that's the
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problem you know gorge speaks from a science background and pretty much everything he says is based on on
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real hardcore facts and that's why when i read this
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i was i was in shock because i had never seen anything that was more conclusive
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than this uh piece by dr phillip where they actually did a 30-year study
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just on that subject absolutely and snorkels and fins snorkeling gear right
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out there when you when you read out you'll say my god how could anybody devote that kind of time and effort to one
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subject but they did and that's why now we need to take that and we need to study it and we need to you know apply
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it and make sure that uh that we we adhere to reassess reassess the northern laws of
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the northern ontario laws you know what i mean where there is basically half the province is allowed to fish small mouth on the beds that
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large one too but mostly smallmouth on the beds right so and and what's interesting though is the purpose the reason that that was
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put in place um is is to try and eradicate them like figure it out
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[Music] uh let's talk about something positive how about we talk about the great ontario getaway giveaway that's in its
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uh now starting its second month round two round number two angelo round
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i love that become a fisherman i've been fishing perfect so
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we're in round two and people are starting to understand the contest i know that there's been a
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bit of a uproar out there about well this is harder than normal contests that we run
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and and normally we you know they're no-brainers we can just go and and put in a ballot and and hope
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that we win this one's a little more complicated well it is it is a little more complicated no doubt
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about it but the ones that are starting to get it are getting it and they're getting it big time so we wanted to take
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a little bit of time today uh we've invited um uh lori uh from nodo she's gonna be joining us
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here soon um to to give us uh her perspective on it but before that happens i just wanted to
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remind folks that the important thing about these monthly contests is that every month
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is has a theme the first month the first uh theme was how
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did uh or does or did or will um the outdoors help you get through the
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pandemic and and a small group of people understood it and got it but most of most people didn't so
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everybody was submitting just you know stories and fishing pictures which were all lovely and great and wonderful
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and and uh and and whatnot but it wasn't the theme it seemed like that
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they just did maybe they didn't even read the theme they just thought hey you know what this is a great a photo contest and i'll give
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a caption because it really seemed like nobody uh the majority the high majorities and said
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didn't even read the criteria right answer i mean just that was the problem
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we let it go we said okay you know what this is a brand new contest we've changed the rules we've changed everything let's uh
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let's let this one fly and let's one slide however in round two not so much
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i went to round three do that so what peter's referring to now is
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in the second month of the contest uh whereby the theme is if you should
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win who would you take and why that's a very simple question who would you take and
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why so now though uh for those of you who still don't get it and are submitting
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pictures of your your dog uh you know uh lying on the dock um after a day of
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swimming um we're not publishing it we're not putting it in
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we're asking you to resubmit so some of you are getting annoyed with that and
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and you know what maybe justly so i don't know but it is the way it's going to be if you
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don't adhere to what the protocol is for this particular theme we can't put you in
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because a lot of people are getting it a lot of people are doing it right most of them are doing it well this time yeah yeah doing it really well so i just want
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to i wanted to come on here and tell you folks we're not being you know
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nasty people i was gonna say nasty too
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we're not being nasty people but it's it's part of the we're giving them a chance to re-wreck
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if you're sitting there give us a picture of you and your dog in the dock are you talking about catching the fish over there resubmit it with you'd
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like to take your dog deal with the lodge trip that's all you have to do change your story around a little bit beautiful
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done all right uh lori is here so we want to bring around because we also want to talk about some other things that maybe uh are a little um
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confusing and need clarification on the uh on the site hey laurie how are you doing hi guys
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how's it going good you just missed the doc
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you guys are nasty yeah you know so we're just telling folks that you
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know each month we've got a different theme on the um on the contest and how they can win but i wanted to talk to you
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about um about the outfitters and the packages that they're putting in and how the whole
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thing works because there seems to be a bit of confusion with with the fact that every package is
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different and maybe you can explain that to us i think that's the best part of all this
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isn't it i know yeah i do too well i mean it just goes to show that's
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how many different types of adventures we have in northern ontario there are so that's why i love this
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industry that's why i've been working here for 30 years this year is because it's so different you never
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know what you're gonna get like a box of chocolates so i think you know and there are i
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would say what i love most is that there's a trip for everyone there's a price point for everyone
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there's the kind of adventure for everyone you know no matter who you are no matter
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what age you are no matter your level of experience um and no matter
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what kind of trip you want to take these guys have it all you know and there's i just um that's
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what i've admired and loved about working for this industry for this long so there's
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um i mean there will be housekeeping packages and housekeeping packages are you bring your own food you get your cottage rental you get your
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boat you get your motor you get you know you can have a guide included in that package
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um but you cook your own food so it's all you know on you now the operators may provide you with a shore lunch
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they may provide you with a kit for short lunch or they may not they may provide you with the stuff but
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that's all the stuff you talk about with the operator but the packages are all going to be
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different there are packages with america we call it american plan and that's your you know all of your
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meals are included um short lunch kits all of that you don't have to bring anything but your fishing rod and your clothes
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bare essentials um and there's drive-in flying odin train in
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there's even atv in i mean there's all different kinds that's what's so exciting there's even uh i i noticed one
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or two maybe maybe more but i've noticed one or two actual houseboats
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that's fantastic well you know the problem i think the natural tendency of people is that they
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want to win the best if i could win a million bucks i don't want to win 100 bucks i can win a million bucks right so
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when you get a variety of stuff like this we're all we're all hoping for that top end the best lodge
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ontario has to offer but you got to be appreciative of what you win here folks because you got to remember what this is all about this is to help
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tourism in northern ontario we're doing a big thing here with a hundred grand going to all these these lodges that do win so so please
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if you win at a lodge that isn't the absolute top of the tree please be appreciative of that and get there and have some fun with it because
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i'm telling you what it's a chance you never you wouldn't have this large package to begin with so it's a bonus to you
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so you're making a lot of assumptions though you're making and i have to interject here you're making a lot of
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assumptions you and i are a perfect example some of our best experiences have been
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from those places where you know you might have looked at it on on paper and said yeah i don't know about that how many times have we gone
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to a place like that and he said wow whether it's an outstanding in terms of fishery
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whether it's outstanding in terms of the amenities or or just the the the fellowship that that
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particular operator has developed within his community i mean oh every single one to me is a five star
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um in that sense i i must have come around crosstalk because that's exactly what i'm trying to say is that you're
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gonna you're gonna love no matter what you win i guarantee you're gonna love this package and this is a package that you would not have had
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it's given you for free so trust us they're all great fishing there's that's what we're about fishing and get
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togethers and all that stuff and these these lodges are all and i could show all about the experience
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it really really really is yep so so the way this worked if i'm not mistaken here that that all of the
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operators were given an opportunity to submit their own package
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right so we had nothing to do you had nothing to do with what that it looked like so they were all um
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uh allowed to build a package or submit whatever package they wanted to feature
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in in the giveaway and um and then you know it's luck of a draw at
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that point right people who who win the monthly um segment of the contest then
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there's a random draw made for one of those lodge owners so so it's really a wonderful uh
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experience and and for those of you who have been entering from day one uh keep it up
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and i hope i wish each and every one of you could win because i see the hard work that you're putting into this thing and it's uh
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it's fantastic the stories by the way this month now that people are connecting with the
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themes and they're understanding uh what it is that we're asking of them my god
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uh i i i told one of our people here that when this is over i want to take this
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month's submissions and and make a book out of them because they're absolutely fantastic that's great just
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so just some great stuff and it really goes to show you how much we take it for granted pete and i take
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it for granted because we're we've been blessed with the opportunity to work in the industry you're taking for granted because not only do you work in the industry but you
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live in northern ontario it just shows you how much we take for granted because
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because we live this stuff every day but most of these people are with us here even on this uh a webcast
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that's not the case it's just not the case so this is um this is a great opportunity it's
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wonderful we're getting some of these people in the comments are getting it you know they don't it doesn't matter every way you know when they get what we're doing that's
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all about uh nick there's jim burns janner jim burns says please talk about the
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non-fishing places go ahead glory on that one every single one of them can be a non-fishing place
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you know it all depends on what experience you want this is just a place that you're going to rest your head what
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you choose to do with your time there is entirely up to you a lot of our operators have
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canoes kayaks some of them have hiki access to hiking trails some of them you could go in and they're
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close enough to use a provincial park and use their hiking trails and they've got you know that there's uh some of these
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operators have a relationship with ontario parks and they can give you a day pass you know um there's
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lots of different opportunities if you want to go bird watching if you are an artist and you want to sit on the
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most beautiful lakes and river beds in northern ontario and you know paint your life away that's
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the spot for it if you love to scar stargaze if you love to pick
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wild mushrooms you know uh just talk to the operator ask them what they've got
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um there are tons and tons of things to do beside fishing stargazing stargazing is a great one
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because i don't think people realize this one either when you can start going to northern ontario you start going a little bit north and get farther north
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you look in that sky every night and you will not believe how many stars are in
58:39
the sky because it doesn't light up here like this there you've got like one there's no light pollution
58:44
yeah a little light pollution and it's amazing people that go up north and have that experience
58:50
my favorite my favorite thing to do is to lie on the end of the dog you've got water surrounding you all
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around you and you just look up at that sky it's a completely different experience
59:02
it really is and it's so calming and don't we need to be calm right now oh yeah oh yeah
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the other the other point worth making calvin uh just brought it up he says don't forget
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what the purpose of this whole exercise is we're all here together to support and help the lodge
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owners here in ontario you know and i and i and i know that there's people that are from other parts of the country
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that are listening in and watching that maybe get a little upset when we keep pushing ontario but
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it is what it is and this is our hometown and and pete and i have had a special connection
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with most of these people in the north with operations and uh we just saw fit that we needed to do
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something and help them i'd love to be able to do it for all operators right across the country
59:57
because they're all deserving of a break but right now we're talking about
1:00:02
northern ontario and the fact that a lot of these operators love it or hate it the reality of the
1:00:09
matter is that they depend on u.s business some of them a hundred percent
1:00:14
u.s 100 of their business is from the us well without a border to
1:00:21
cross that has gone from 100 to zero overnight and a lot of them have not exposed their
1:00:30
products to you the canadian public good or bad
1:00:35
we're not here to judge but that's the reality of the matter right and so we think that by bringing you
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all together um on one venue like this one i think is is
1:00:47
a great opportunity for some of these operators who have ignored
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uh canadians people from ontario especially southern ontario this is a great opportunity to kiss and
1:00:59
make up how's that this is a great opportunity to hug it and say hey i'm glad we found each other and uh
1:01:06
we're going to be doing business together from here on in and that's the purpose of this and so thanks calvin for bringing that up
1:01:13
because we kind of missed that in this in this whole dialogue it's about supporting
1:01:18
and and at the same time it's about taking the wrinkles out of your soul because you know the experience that laurie just
1:01:24
mentioned on that dock oh my god that is all spiritual like i've got goosebumps
1:01:29
when you said that because i've seen it i've done it i've been there and i know what that feels like and she forgot to add the can
1:01:37
of beer in her hand though the canary no i'm saying hey laurie come on let's tell everybody
1:01:43
i'm not a beer girl give me a spirit any day
1:01:51
yeah so so that's basically uh that's basically it we just wanted to remind folks that that there is a purpose behind all this
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and so you know bear with us if it's not if it's not perfect
1:02:04
it's not perfect it's not the perfect contest you're not going to be you know 100 satisfied
1:02:11
i'm sure there are going to be people who will complain but at the end of the day look in the
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mirror and ask yourself what's the purpose of all this free trips that's always nice
1:02:22
that's always nice but the bonus is that somebody at the other end is getting paid for these trips and
1:02:28
they're going to be able to make a little bit of money and along the way we'll all
1:02:34
have had a little bit of fun and learn some new things and uh and maybe a newfound respect for
1:02:39
each other and all kinds of crazy things that come with it so well and i think i think and
1:02:45
too um you know as you said before we haven't really done a very good job
1:02:50
of telling people in canada what we have in the way of experiences and it just
1:02:56
you know maybe that's a little positive thing that came out of coving right is that we actually took that look
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into internally and said hang on a second we've got people here we have
1:03:11
we have people that are in dire need of getting away from it all and they don't have to go very far
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you know so let's you know showcase i mean even if you don't win a trip
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i encourage you to take a look at the different types of of places talk to an operator talk to
1:03:31
them you know communicate with them find out more about them find out what their story is there are some really cool stories with
1:03:37
some of these operators so many cool stories um and they're just hard-working people
1:03:43
um and you can imagine the stress levels that they're under but all of them say being at the lodge
1:03:50
is i'm so grateful that i'm at the lodge going through this even though my business is really crazy
1:03:57
right now and i i'm you know i'm worried about everything but being in that space
1:04:03
provides them with such a calmness you know it just takes it all back they
1:04:08
just hate not seeing people there with them they really do so i mean and you wanted
1:04:13
me to talk a little bit about noto and i don't know if we have any time for that we've got time for you we can sit here
1:04:19
all day with you we have mobile issues oh thanks um so i think you know
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uh we people know us know the uh old uh it was the northern ontario
1:04:31
vacation directory of a while like very early on noto directory and we used
1:04:37
to list all of our members and have a little blurb about each and this was before internet way before internet um and then we
1:04:44
started developing we developed um the ontario outdoor adventure guide and that's how i really got to know
1:04:50
youtube was because we were doing um the booth for go fetch and that showcased everybody in the
1:04:59
sector in the resource-based tourism sector and that's where i got to know how big my industry was
1:05:05
and that's not that long ago um you know and and in doing that we realized there's
1:05:11
over 1300 of these types of businesses across the province over a thousand of
1:05:18
them just over a thousand of them are in northern ontario but that's huge huge numbers so what
1:05:26
noto does and uh we were membership-based organizations so the camps and lodges
1:05:32
join our organization and we advocate on their behalf we provide information services business
1:05:39
support services um you know we have money saving benefits for them we work with other
1:05:45
uh companies to to develop discounts and that sort of thing for them um but we we really got away from the
1:05:52
marketing um because there's other people that do that and can just focus on that and i think that's we
1:05:59
all thought that was really important and the membership are the ones that said you know we need you to be doing this stuff really well so you know
1:06:07
leave the marketing up to the other folks so and we certainly have i mean there's all of them sunset country algoma
1:06:12
country northeastern ontario tourism those are our big ones in northern ontario uh destination northern ontario and
1:06:19
destination ontario there's a lot of marketing folks there's they got it covered i don't need to be doing it but
1:06:26
stop for one second you've got to read you got to read this you got to read this oh ted
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[Laughter] don't make me cry and it's true thank
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you it's true carry out sorry so um now i lost my train of thought
1:06:45
so since the beginning of covid um we you know we normally communicate with
1:06:51
our membership um and we but we decided that it was really really really
1:06:57
important to make sure that everybody in the sector has information has the support knows
1:07:03
that there's somebody here that has their back and we also needed to engage with them we needed to
1:07:09
you know get information out of them to help us advocate on their behalf like doing surveys and things like that
1:07:14
and we wanted to check in with them you know that was the big thing was just checking in with them and seeing how
1:07:20
they're doing all the time so um we have so we went from
1:07:25
sending our newsletter to about 300 businesses to 1400 businesses and
1:07:32
you know it's really kind i wanted them to know to have that sense of community wanted them to have a place that they
1:07:39
could go to to cry on the shoulder um to you know scream at somebody for a few
1:07:44
minutes and just to say you know um you know how to know that they have
1:07:50
somebody that's representing them um as best as we can so um it's been uh we've been i keep saying to
1:07:57
kate and we have there's two staff people at noodle there's me and my kate and i couldn't live without kate
1:08:03
absolutely not there's no way and also i have my board so i have my board
1:08:08
is made up of uh 11 people two of them are our preferred supplier
1:08:15
members the rest of them are camp operators so i take my direction from industry through my board and they
1:08:23
have been phenomenal they have been very very supportive ted actually from hog lake is of course one of them um and um
1:08:31
i could we couldn't do this without that group um definitely they have our backs so
1:08:38
i mean it's been we've been lobbying provincially federally through the municipalities you
1:08:44
know regionally it's just been all on it's been there are no i say this to kate all the
1:08:50
time okay honey there's no days of the week and there's no hours in any day until we
1:08:56
get through this and it's it's hard i started trying to claim back my weekends recently and it's it's going okay
1:09:04
but we gotta be here until they don't need us anymore and hopefully you know we'll see our
1:09:09
folks with a season this year we really really hope so um you know we're still
1:09:15
i'm remaining optimistic that the vaccinations will start really amping up and we will
1:09:23
be able to think about you know reopening that border soon um but right now i have to focus on
1:09:30
whether we're going to be able to have domestic market even right you know so it's challenging
1:09:38
the the the importance and relevance of what you folks are doing to me anyways and i could be totally off
1:09:45
base with this but there's another angle here that i look at all the time and that is that if we lose you said you have some 1400
1:09:52
members pete and i have always used the number 1200 operators in ontario
1:10:00
every one of them that we lose moving forward is a little piece of
1:10:07
wilderness that's going to go along with it and the reason i say that and i know a thing or two about
1:10:13
governments i've worked very closely for a number of years to be able to tell
1:10:18
you that it's a constant balance that they have between industry and recreation
1:10:26
who do i please do i please the mining companies the timber companies do i please the or do i please
1:10:32
that poor little operator that's got that you know that four generational business on that piece of land
1:10:38
that we're keeping the whole area locked up for them or do i just say the hell with it let
1:10:44
let industry move in there and tear it all apart well that's this is no in no way shape
1:10:51
you know a threat or anything i'm not implying anything i can tell you right now that these operators whether that number
1:10:57
is a thousand or 1200 or whatever numbers we're throwing out there these days it's the reason why we have
1:11:05
the pristine wilderness still in this part of the world it's because of those operators it's
1:11:10
because of those two and three generational uh little companies that have been maintaining and protecting those wild
1:11:17
areas for us once they're done they're gone believe me there is no nobody is going to say oh
1:11:24
okay who wants to come in and take over the spot of it no they're gone they're gone
1:11:29
so so let's think about that too let's not forget about the importance that they play in in maintaining and keeping
1:11:37
our wild places wild yeah absolutely i mean if if there wasn't um we've been
1:11:43
doing if we don't have the economic impact numbers available to do to fight all of these sites if we don't
1:11:49
have that um an individual operator you know is gonna is gonna have a hard time fighting for
1:11:55
that piece of land right you gotta have a a backup um you gotta have somebody that can present
1:12:01
them as part of an industry rather than just an individual operator um you know
1:12:08
it's it's a struggle every day i would say and right now all of our forest management plans
1:12:14
in the province are there's 38 forest management plans that are coming to you so that means the operator has to go in
1:12:20
again look at where they're look at what the plans are think about what their uh values their we call them tourism
1:12:27
values um and and try to get those plotted out so i think there's you know there's that that's just one of
1:12:33
the things that we have to watch for and doing the economic and for giving the economic information
1:12:40
really helps us with our communities as well because we show how much money we
1:12:46
actually support the northern communities with like you know buying supplies having
1:12:54
staff pulled from those communities you know our guests buying goods and services inside those
1:13:02
communities i mean it's it's critical like some of these towns last year were like ghost towns because we didn't
1:13:08
have our guests up so i mean it's it's all really really important and it's an organizing an organization like noto
1:13:16
can attend meetings and and make sure that those that everybody knows
1:13:21
you know the importance that the important role that tourism plays in so many different ways so yeah it's
1:13:29
it's a it's a big job can you um can you address this comment that's on yeah just
1:13:35
ask that yeah that jim jin's comment can you talk about the up to 20 tax credit for tourism support can you
1:13:42
talk about that at all i don't we've been asking for details we've been um consulted a bit on on that uh they
1:13:49
haven't gotten it all ironed out yet i don't see that being put out i would give it another month
1:13:54
i don't think it's going to be out just yet because they want to make sure that you know some of the stuff that we've
1:14:00
brought up is we want to make sure that that you know 20 tax credit actually
1:14:06
assists you know gets people moving further into the province gets people moving around because if they do it in a way that's
1:14:12
non-prescriptive then they could you know just spend it at restaurant restaurants
1:14:18
and and local we want them to be able to do that but we also want to incentivize them to move
1:14:23
further around the province so i think there will they're still tweaking things um i haven't heard you know what it looks
1:14:30
like yet um but i think that they're i think that they're working on something to
1:14:36
for the end of this month and then um you know i'm not really i can't really say that
1:14:42
what it looks like right now okay um let's move on to to the contest
1:14:48
because uh we are what two weeks away three weeks away from the the second
1:14:54
leg of it and announcing the next five winners uh can you explain to folks how it works
1:14:59
in terms of the hierarchy or or the process and procedures
1:15:04
once they're once we we establish the five winners here on this show um
1:15:12
the next steps now this was just handed to me that's why i'm saying this and we'd like you to elaborate on it uh the
1:15:19
next steps are that nodo is
1:15:24
sort of the official connection we will we are the contest people mission canada.com um handles all of the
1:15:31
contesting for the event once we have received the five winning
1:15:37
names and they're given to you you then contact them yes that yes
1:15:43
yes we contact the lodge and we contact the winning contestant and then we put the two of them together
1:15:50
okay and then once the the two are connected the lodge and the winning contestant then
1:15:56
from that point on you're out of it and we're out of it in the sense that they can do whatever they want there's a
1:16:02
lot of folks that are saying hey listen i know the trips for two but you know if if i should win i'd like to
1:16:07
take my family there do you think i could get you know some sort of deal going with the operator
1:16:12
well talk to him yeah of course yeah so that's a good point too that's a good point this trip is for two
1:16:18
people so i've seen some uh stories written it looks like they're expecting maybe more but maybe they're
1:16:23
looking what answer wants to say they want to buy something else but um just remember that just everybody
1:16:28
else so the trip is paid for two people but if they want to make other arrangements if they you know wanted to add something
1:16:35
additional to the package that's all between the consumer and the and the operator
1:16:40
but what we do is we we will if the if we've let either one know that if they have any questions or
1:16:47
anything else they can come back to us and we'll see if it's a question we can answer or if that's something they need to deal with the operator
1:16:54
you know um we don't want to just say here there you go bye-bye yeah we know that we're still there
1:17:00
yeah i didn't want i didn't want anybody to think we were just handing off but everybody here in this in this event
1:17:06
has a particular function and nodo's function is the lazy on between operator and winner and
1:17:13
and they kind of look after that part of it and then once you make your arrangements with the operator
1:17:20
and by the way another misconception we've had people we had a nasty letter come in
1:17:26
from somebody saying how dare you folks promote travel at a time where we're in lockup you know
1:17:32
i'm hoping to participate in this dumb contest because you're fostering you know harm and like just
1:17:38
but anyways i'll mention the fact that this is uh the prize can be redeemed over
1:17:45
this year and next so you've got until the end of 22 to make arrangements with the operator
1:17:52
that works for you a lot of people can't just up and leave even if we weren't under lock now
1:17:58
but um you know you've got work to consider and and other commitments to
1:18:04
consider so you've got this year and next year that you can make arrangements with the operator too
1:18:09
well quite frankly right now the lodges are just getting ready to open right the most part they're not ready to
1:18:14
receive guests yet yeah we get ice up there still what's the matter with you [Laughter]
1:18:20
um i'd rather be fishing says what about transportation to lodge if a fly-in
1:18:25
well that's a good question lori so they will the the contestant has to
1:18:32
get to a hub which would be like their air base and then the fly-in portion
1:18:38
is totally covered in that package the fly-in packages include the air transportation from
1:18:44
their air base or from whichever air base they're using yeah but you need to get yourself
1:18:49
to their air base here's another example if it's a train in from sudbury let's just say you have to get
1:18:55
yourself to the train station at sudbury from there they take you all the way up through wherever you go so you you have to get to the designated hub
1:19:01
first can i take a moment to explain because we've had some people complaining about
1:19:07
that okay i'll be honest with you i'm the one who i'm the one the bearer of bad news here because i'm getting
1:19:13
i get all the complaints so i've had people complaining say oh well there you go well that's not fair i don't live
1:19:20
you know in in espanola i don't live in wawa i don't live in whatever you know i'm i'm in toronto or
1:19:27
worse yet i've had one thing i'm in in vancouver so i'm being penalized because i got to
1:19:34
pay for my trip all the way to ontario
1:19:39
so let me just throw this out again in case we lose sight of what our purpose here is today we're here
1:19:46
to help we're not here to cause problems we're here to help
1:19:52
the operators are getting paid for these trips the whole premise here is that we are
1:19:59
drumming up business for them and it's not costing you anything you are going to win it free
1:20:07
the operator is going to get paid in real currency we couldn't spread the money to air
1:20:12
canada and and and and everybody else that it would take to have transportation facilitated for
1:20:20
everybody from all over the country so we made a decision that what we would do is make sure that the money goes
1:20:26
where it's needed where is it needed in the northern communities that's where the money has to go so you
1:20:33
need to get yourself to that hub as as laurie just mentioned and that hub depending on on where you went it
1:20:41
it's the air base the closest air base to that operator or the air base that that operator uses for
1:20:48
their plans you've got to get yourself there so something that i've been i've been
1:20:53
talking to a lot of folks that are interested in coming up to northern ontario and they're talking to me about how long it takes
1:21:00
and i you know we have to maybe do a little bit of a better job
1:21:06
to explain to them that the trip begins from the minute they get out of rush hour traffic oh is that true
1:21:13
yeah really i mean there are so many amazing if you're driving from
1:21:18
southern ontario there are so many scenic areas to stop and explore along the way don't
1:21:25
just go blindly absolutely i think road trip hello
1:21:31
i mean it's different for everyone and i know that some people you know don't like to drive long
1:21:36
distances but break up the drive yeah if you have any opportunity
1:21:42
to drive around lake superior in the summer oh my yeah it's breathtaking
1:21:48
it's pretty awesome for school pretty breathtaking you know and even from even from let's say
1:21:55
east of toronto this is the tour on tony's will probably take highway 400 up which is not certainly not your your
1:22:02
basic back road or in that but but if you go east of that we go north of whitby and go through the muskoka area and all that
1:22:08
oh my god it's a great drive 10 minutes with me it's beautiful people pay for that don't
1:22:14
you understand people from other parts of the world pay humongous dollars for that experience alone oh
1:22:22
yeah i mean people from all parts of the world pay to get a trip around superior
1:22:30
and up through i mean that whole area they actually pay just for those trips yeah there's that's the lake superior
1:22:35
circle tour
1:22:46
we're trying to oversell you know maybe we are but but it's because we get weird
1:22:53
questions asked of us yeah you gotta open skull when people ask you i gotta start from i don't wanna
1:22:58
yeah you gotta pay me for my house my gas tank you know what i don't know talbot has got the perfect comment and i
1:23:04
don't mean to be disrespectful to anybody that might take this the wrong way dean
1:23:09
says if people don't want to take the time or pay the money to get to the lodge hub
1:23:16
then don't enter the draw right don't enter the contest what's like
1:23:22
that's the part i don't understand but yeah anyway we have over 54 lodges now i think i know i said we
1:23:29
have uh i think we're 57 i think 57 56 57 so lodges uh flying driving training
1:23:36
well yeah they're training and their houseboats i mean there's so many different types and if
1:23:42
something there can't interest you yeah elizabeth says how many days is the
1:23:47
getaway for it depends so if it's a housekeeping plan it may be a full week
1:23:53
it could be five days if it's a fly-in generally there are three to four days maybe five days usually four days is max
1:24:01
um it all depends on on what they've donated so you know um definitely uh
1:24:08
you're going to get value for it it's not going to be a two-day trip or you're not going to drive all the way there sit for two days and then you know it's
1:24:15
it's they this is their normal they've developed these plans over years and years and years and
1:24:22
they listen to their guests um so they have planned to design these plans
1:24:28
um you know these days these uh packages rather um out after listening to guests for
1:24:35
years so these are um these are pretty standard packages
1:24:40
by the way uh lori was mentioning the participating lodges if you go to fishingcanada.com hit the contest and
1:24:47
then i think it's the third level down hit the hit that link and it goes right to all our lodges and
1:24:52
you have everything in there and then when you click on that it goes to about the lodge and then you get a click
1:24:58
to their site you get it they're all right there so they're all open yeah so make sure you scroll down to see what the package includes exactly
1:25:05
exactly and and if you win one and it's let's i'll just use this an example you wouldn't want it's only three days
1:25:11
and you want to do a five day or seven day talk to the operator that's what they're there for you know
1:25:17
they'll work with you um lori i don't know whether you can answer this one but this is a question from
1:25:23
uh d s l p travel and service
1:25:31
they want to help promote ontario fishing spots and lodges but are unsure if they work with travel agents
1:25:36
due to commission structures who would they talk to oh you know what um
1:25:44
some of them do some of them uh do deal with travel agents um but most of them don't
1:25:51
um but maybe if you can contact me offline we can always put a blurb in our
1:25:56
newsletter to say you're looking for folks that are working that are accustomed to working with travel agents or that do work with
1:26:02
travel agents and we'd be happy to you can get some connections that way how would that be
1:26:08
it's funny that that question came up because for years we've we've said why doesn't some
1:26:16
professional sales agency get involved in selling and marketing
1:26:23
northern ontario it just seems like that there's a void there
1:26:28
because they're they're they're some of the most incredible venues on the face of the earth yeah it just
1:26:34
seems that there's a lack of i don't know yeah and i think i part of that i think is connectivity
1:26:41
um some of our lodges don't can't go on do online can and because the packages are
1:26:49
they're pretty custom-made i mean there's so many such a wide variety of packages you
1:26:54
might be able to get at one single lodge that it's really difficult for them to you know
1:27:01
be able to manage bookings with somebody else doing the booking and you know our industry
1:27:07
is all about um building relationships with guests so that a lot of them really like that
1:27:14
ability to work directly with somebody to book a trip they want to get the feel for the guests
1:27:19
they want the guests to you know build that relationship right off yeah and i i but i get it i mean um we've been trying
1:27:26
we've looked at different systems like uh reservation online reservation systems i'm seeing more and more of the
1:27:32
operators getting into using those kinds of systems but it's still you know it's it's just a portion of the
1:27:39
industry that that's doing that and it's mostly because they can't keep going and checking their inventory
1:27:45
and it's just the connectivity just isn't there so well i see a question and i'm not
1:27:53
sure about this one yourself about it there are any lodges from nancy and lodge is available for ice fishing
1:27:58
did the ontario lodges stay open through the winter or winter a lot of them some of them absolutely do yeah some of
1:28:03
them are year-round they have they're open for snowmobiling and for ice fishing um there's a there's
1:28:10
a bunch in i would say every region all three regions of northern ontario so what would happen then nancy you
1:28:16
would just if you when you contact the lodge and if you want an ice fishing package and they do offer that with that lodge then you can
1:28:22
set that up so i'm assuming right so there you go anything else
1:28:28
what else we got there it throws you north so they're done that
1:28:34
makes sense all right um if we're under lockdown there's a good question suppose
1:28:42
uh to say in your zone how are we supposed to get out fishing so let's not deal with it as a fishing
1:28:49
general question let's deal with it as a contest question um yeah this the redemption part of this
1:28:57
uh event goes right through until the end of 22. however i don't even know why i'm
1:29:03
throwing this out but i'll throw it out um you know if we have unforeseen
1:29:09
circumstances that take us beyond that i don't know what we're going to do because i think a free trip will be the
1:29:14
least of our problems at that point we're still locked down by the end of 22. so i think we've all learned
1:29:21
flexibility and adaptation through covet i think we can figure that
1:29:27
part out but i mean that's absolutely worst case scenario right i mean
1:29:32
to to answer it uh maybe in the terms that norm uh asks the question um it's a very good
1:29:39
question and we were talking about it earlier today here in in this building uh
1:29:45
we're under lockdown and it's supposed to be essential travel only
1:29:52
how do you i don't even know how to how to deal with this you know how do you deal with fishing it
1:29:58
is it essential well some people might argue the fact that it is essential and so
1:30:03
they need to go out and fish but i don't think those are the people that that this lockdown is supposed to
1:30:09
be targeting so i i'm always of the opinion that
1:30:15
um if you're just going out fishing and it's you're still adhering to all the protocols that are supposed to be in
1:30:21
place regardless of what you're doing or where you're doing it and you're adhering to those protocols i don't
1:30:27
think you got anything to worry about i mean nobody's going to stop you if you're on a boat in the middle of a lake
1:30:33
fishing they might they might stop you to see if you're by yourself or not by yourself there's somebody else in your boat and they're
1:30:39
with your your own family that'd be the reason it's nothing but as long as you're like and said adhering to it if your family
1:30:44
members in your bubble they really you're not hurting anybody at the middle of a lake two people
1:30:49
in the middle of the lake so right uh there's another question uh referring
1:30:55
to the contest uh do the the the drive two lodge packages include boats or can you bring your own boat
1:31:02
once again it i think most of you could if it's a drive to most of you could bring your own boat
1:31:08
there's very few exceptions that i'm aware of where you where they don't have a launch ramp for your phone yeah so the answer would be yes you
1:31:14
could uh bring your boat i also see that buck lake lodges and outposts says that their trip
1:31:20
uh that'll be won hopefully um is uh a flying lodge and it's for seven
1:31:26
days wow there you go
1:31:42
look at you you can't remember advisor's phone number but you got the witch's nose now pretty good don't you wow
1:31:50
it's a great point that pete and i found on that lake while we're shooting it's called
1:31:55
witch's nose don't forget that if anybody wins buck lake lodge and i'll post the first place you need directions to
1:32:02
is witch's nose right there i want to go
1:32:07
it's it's great little it's great the shore lunch there was was well they're all great who am i
1:32:14
kidding yeah yeah go back to the the drive to in the boat bring your own boat for bob there
1:32:19
most of these places by the way have great little bow launches too bob i mean they're they use them they keep up they up
1:32:24
upkeep to maintain them and if there was any a problem they'll launch the boat for you if they have to put their
1:32:30
tractor or their vehicles or whatever on there if it was muddy or something like that that gets you in the water i mean they're usually very good um almost
1:32:37
every launch we've been to at the drive dudes work perfect for us so yeah i was just reading a a a a long letter
1:32:45
there on the on the side um you know the only way i'll address i don't even
1:32:52
think we need it up the only way i'm going to address this i i will make this comment is that we said that there are 12 1400 arguably
1:32:59
more or less operators in the province and they're like any other independent business
1:33:04
there's some really really really really really good people uh who who know what the service
1:33:11
industry is all about and and those are really good places
1:33:16
and there are some bad ones um what i can tell you because this lady is concerned about
1:33:24
that what i can tell you is that uh between laurie and her group and
1:33:31
our group and dno uh who is a third partner in this uh event
1:33:39
um we've i can i can pretty much tell you that
1:33:45
with with with almost total certainty that there there's nothing but good people in this
1:33:51
event and the operators that you're going to be exposed to will become tremendous friends
1:33:59
i can almost guarantee you that you'll have lasting relationships but most importantly they're going to show you
1:34:07
um something that you have never seen before a hospitality and a kinship
1:34:12
and a wilderness adventure that that regardless whether it's a seven-day
1:34:18
housekeeping or a fly-in for three days or drive to or train they're going to show you something that
1:34:24
you probably didn't even know existed so rest assured that if you win
1:34:30
it it should be good you know well when i can talk about what they have to like the application form for a lodge isn't
1:34:37
just you know give us your package um they have to um and and nodo helped write some
1:34:43
protocols coveted health and safety protocols last year had them vetted by government they've
1:34:49
been in place and our industry has by and large um you know the progressive operators the
1:34:55
ones that really uh care about their guests and that want um to do good things and just to remain in
1:35:03
business and provide safe healthy you know vacations um are doing taking up these protocols
1:35:10
so they had to show us that they were um you know uh going to be accepting
1:35:15
these protocols and putting these protocols in place they had to apply for what's called the safe travel stamp it is a worldwide
1:35:23
stamp that you get and that's an application process in itself you have to do a little bit more
1:35:29
you know confirming what your protocols are you know and uh you know sign off that you're um
1:35:36
adhering to things and once they had that then we could accept their application
1:35:41
for that we felt very strongly that that was something that we had to have part of this project
1:35:47
um we had to have part of this contest and then you know kate and i we went and looked
1:35:54
at websites we went and you know checked them out um i'll be happy to i'm very happy to say that we
1:36:01
didn't have any that we needed to turn away um and um yeah i mean i think you're
1:36:07
getting a good chunk of the best of the best in this contest very well put
1:36:13
very well a lot of them pete and i have experienced personally and i got to tell you
1:36:19
there isn't a bad one among them that uh that i've seen so far it's the experience too people have to
1:36:26
remember that it is a once-in-a-lifetime experience and said earlier that we were spoiled we are spoiled we are because we get to
1:36:32
work in this in the fishing industry and part of that is traveling to the north and going to
1:36:37
these uh camps being an outpost we had a full-fledged lodge whatever and i'll tell you what it has been the
1:36:43
best part of my life to be able to go to these things i can i can personally vouch for as
1:36:49
most of these people that are watching here today are our anglers and i'm telling you it is just so
1:36:55
awesome to get up there nothing around you anywhere around you like that and just get out fishing when you want
1:37:01
have a short lunch have some hot dogs doesn't matter crack a beer a night at the fire it doesn't matter it's trust me it's
1:37:09
it's all good um i'd rather be fishing wants to know
1:37:14
if there's been any any news concerning the lockdown um and lodges laurie have you heard
1:37:20
anything at all not really this day as long as the stay-at-home water stays in place
1:37:26
people can't get to us really so it's it's um you know we kind of just have to
1:37:32
hunker down and hopefully we'll see those numbers um reduced to the coveted case numbers
1:37:38
the daily numbers we need to see them around a thousand folks so um you know we don't see anything
1:37:45
letting up until that happens and i know it's it's it's heartbreaking
1:37:51
and i know it's a huge challenge but you know um our operators are dealing with it
1:37:57
they're you know they're suffering more losses and you know joe blow public is also feeling
1:38:04
the angst of not being able to get out and to do their favorite things too but if we don't
1:38:09
you know people are feeling in our industry let's just do this because we want to be open and we want
1:38:14
to stay open we don't want to be shut down again so let's please you know just hunker down
1:38:23
very well put uh on that note laurie we will we will let you uh i know you've got a
1:38:29
couple of other matters to deal two with today uh really appreciate you coming on and thank you all anxiously waiting to
1:38:37
see who wins that's going to be interesting i want to remind folks that um that lori
1:38:45
and her group will continue putting operators into the drum uh it's going to be an ongoing process
1:38:51
so as you go through them we have a section there now where you can go down and look at all of the operators that are in
1:38:58
but they're going to be uh putting in more in each day as the applications come in so um thank
1:39:04
you so much for appreciating you guys take care thanks a lot for having me have a good weekend
1:39:10
oh man uh so great it's just great nice yeah i want to uh before we we
1:39:18
we leave this i know we've got the caption contest we want to deal with real quick but i want to oh yeah i forgot about that yeah i i just want to remind people
1:39:26
now that you've got these wonderful stories in and you're starting to get the hang of this
1:39:32
unfortunately your work has just begun because you can have the very best story
1:39:39
and image and a submission but if you don't have votes
1:39:44
unfortunately you're not going anywhere i know a lot of you still think that it's a random draw and it's not
1:39:52
yeah vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate good good point i'd rather be fishing yep it's not a random draw it's a random
1:39:59
draw for the lodges for the operators but it's not random draw for you and so
1:40:05
the only way that you're going to win it's not hard but it it it does take
1:40:11
a bit of effort the only way you're going to win is to get votes and the way you get
1:40:17
votes is you've already done the first you've taken the first step and that is submitting
1:40:22
a good uh story a compelling reason that people should
1:40:28
vote for you and in a good image you've already taken that step but now you need to get people there to vote people within
1:40:36
your circle and people within this community people from this site need to vote you
1:40:43
need to start reaching out you need to start letting them know that that you want their vote and and and and
1:40:49
here's the reason why right so i just want you to know sitting back
1:40:54
now that you've submitted is not going to cut it i'm being very frank with you it's just
1:41:00
not there's people that are are understanding how this process works
1:41:05
and there's five votes that people are allowed each day if you have
1:41:11
a circle of friends five or six or seven or eight or nine of these friends that you've talked
1:41:17
to that are willing to commit to you they're time to come in and vote for you every day chances are
1:41:24
you're gonna do really well but without them it's gonna be tough i just wanna be
1:41:30
honest i don't wanna disappoint anybody who might be saying okay i've done my thing i've submitted now let me sit back
1:41:37
and let me win and it could happen so there you go well i i i just wanted to
1:41:44
try people need to be reminded of it you know what i mean it's just uh you can't get complacent you got to work for your win that's all
1:41:51
captioned just like the caption people uh who who've had the caption contest have
1:41:56
worked for their win right exactly my friend and mag zach so what we're going to do what ants and i are
1:42:01
going to do now is we're going to reveal angelo and pete's top five picks have all submitted
1:42:07
captions for can we get the photo up there nick of uh just the photo itself or do you want to
1:42:12
give the first caption as well you know what i'll read off the first caption as well because he's probably got it set up for that uh
1:42:18
in our truck he's got the caption on it okay maybe nick's not watching i'm not sure if he's gonna
1:42:24
or jordan or whatever
1:42:32
richard uh corkum wants to know can you enter more than once in the
1:42:38
photo caption contest no all right there you go there's your
1:42:46
answer the answer sorry sorry richard you can enter
1:42:51
every new round you can enter more than once so once this round is over
1:42:56
then you can get the answer on then you can add another picture with another brand new story adhering to the
1:43:02
storyline and yes you can enter more than once that way so but one per theme how's that because what
1:43:09
happens if we find that somebody has more than one
1:43:14
entry in a short life
1:43:25
good question richard appreciate it correct me if i'm wrong but i think he's referring more to the
1:43:32
actual like caption contest not the what you guys said with more than one kicked
1:43:48
so the answer to that so the answer to you richard then in that case as you know because you've entered us
1:43:55
several times um is yes you can enter it we're not going to do that to you
1:44:00
richard okay i'm sorry buddy we have answers right here
1:44:07
uh sorry about that ah that's good oh my god so well there we
1:44:13
got both sets of rules out okay see we got the ones that we didn't need to tell but we didn't even tell it
1:44:18
anyways then we got richer stuff out there too so moving on to the caption contest okay
1:44:24
everything else is out of the ottomans and pete's head now don't confuse us you guys
1:44:29
dean says that nick must have been uh raiding your beer
1:44:37
i'll catch him buddy because after three he'll be hammered and smashed so i don't have to worry about too many being gone so he's still a kid
1:44:45
okay can we move on are you moving on what are we doing hang on no we said we're gonna answer
1:44:50
questions and i'd rather be fishing wants to know could we tell folks
1:44:56
mid month how they're doing in the contest no
1:45:03
okay no that's so that i'm doing that's a fillet knife to the
1:45:10
juggler right there no enough of that okay any more questions one word answers from here on in hang on
1:45:17
i have to say because there's people are now going to say well whoa whoa what are you talking about
1:45:23
towards the end of the month i believe it's the last week the top 50 will
1:45:31
receive an email saying that you're in the top 50. okay you got a week left
1:45:38
you're almost there make it happen okay okay i'll give you that yeah i'll give
1:45:45
you that all right all right a lot of emails for poor nick to send out hey he's already got enough
1:45:50
to do around here now you got doing that chase we're nick you need up your neck get over my house tonight we'll crack a
1:45:56
couple guarantee i'm going to have a couple that's for sure
1:46:05
all right you going to ask your questions or can i lay the first caption out there it's all yours buddy somebody gave us a
1:46:13
list here i don't know who gave us the list maybe it was jordan maybe it was nick but if you can't adhere to this list that you guys gave us that uh i guess this
1:46:21
is total disruption throughout this whole show then what is it you're going to list that what do you think you tell folks right
1:46:27
now we're going to tell them the captions yes that you and i chose as our top five
1:46:33
these are the finalists the top five finalists correct and then everybody will vote on the top
1:46:39
one somebody's gonna pick out of these five the audience is going to pick you and i made the determination that these were
1:46:46
the top five worthy top five not the top five these were our top five because many are going
1:46:53
to disagree with us as they always do buddy you know that right oh my gosh that's great it's all about
1:46:59
us because what it is because this contest is called the publix caption contest right no it's called the
1:47:06
fish academy five contests and i think 22 guys that i know about this goddess ranch
1:47:11
[Laughter]
1:47:20
oh my god here we are here we are okay all right without further ado the first
1:47:26
one that we chose from paul koble is i told the wife
1:47:34
i was taking the truck in for an oil change entire rotation
1:47:41
and we're laughing at that one because it was pretty good that one was given very early and i'll tell you what we would laugh at
1:47:47
that paul so i like to thank you for that one i thought that was pretty damn good so and and i both picked that one as uh as a shoe
1:47:54
in for the top five by the way i noticed that was marked number two
1:48:00
it doesn't matter because there's no particular order well i i'm reading them off the list here
1:48:06
let's just give them oh oh caption contest number two as in this is the
1:48:11
angeline renault i love words damn it okay that's requested screwed
1:48:31
you me don't you be giving yourself patch in the back okay i found out about you okay
1:48:38
moving on angela do you want to read number two or do you have a list i have a list and uh
1:48:44
number two uh was uh was authored by david griffiths and his caption is
1:48:53
can you believe they actually passed the fish we would laugh with that one too that
1:49:00
would kind of it does fit for that picture i have to say it does fit for that picture so that's number two and these are going
1:49:07
to be available on our website for people to vote on too i'm assuming then nick and jordan have it all set up
1:49:12
caption number three from john thompson this is a pretty good one too i
1:49:18
gotta say i like this one too i just cannot believe he actually pulled your finger
1:49:26
and
1:49:32
that's pretty good i got and by the way there was a lot of the a lot of fart captions in this
1:49:39
one here and it was like i don't know um they must have seen each other and fed up each other because there was so many fart
1:49:44
captions it was crazy so yeah the next one is uh
1:49:50
submitted by john remus yes and uh this was a good but totally
1:49:55
different direction this one this pete hold my hand i'll punch the gas i feel like a thelma and
1:50:01
louise bullwood coming god that was pretty good he obviously has
1:50:07
the punch the gas the fast speed going on there i like that too yeah and the last one
1:50:14
i kind of like this one too jean or jean jean roberto uh this morning i told the wife that i
1:50:22
was in the mood to make love to her she answered back what a nice day you should go fishing
1:50:28
axes denied once again very good that was good mr river i like that one
1:50:35
too so those are this uh months or weeks uh i don't know is this a weekly thing or a month
1:50:40
well we sort of got this condensed down to a week or a week in a little bit so on this one yeah so it's not a
1:50:46
monthly like though um okay so this week's uh top five and they'll be up on the site here momentarily if
1:50:53
they're not already there uh if you would kindly go in and give us your opinion of which one of these is worthy of uh
1:51:00
the championship the championship and the next the newest uh the third caption contest will start
1:51:07
on tuesday of next week we will start our new one on tuesday of next week i was going to ask you that because
1:51:14
normally we would announce it but i wasn't hearing so now right correct so that is tuesday i believe the
1:51:20
11th of may so we'll announce a new one and then of course you get we've been having some great responses please
1:51:25
keep this going folks because this is fun for aunt and i are reading these things like we're getting a ton a ton of submissions
1:51:31
in it it's a lot of fun ready we'll have uh we'll uh put the new picture up for everybody to see
1:51:37
and then you can have at her and rip her apart before thor did we get through everything oh i think
1:51:42
so buddy i think right look at that almost two hours again pal what
1:51:48
well it's supposed to be a one-hour thing you know like you know but i wanted to get paid that extra hour right i have a short time i had to take the
1:51:55
morning off this morning so after five o'clock you get paid double time here kid
1:52:00
yeah i want to remind everybody that there's that this month's
1:52:06
uh ontario great ontario getaway giveaway is wide open wide open in the sense that nobody is
1:52:13
running away with it so you enter today for the first time you'll be um as long as you get it you'll be in
1:52:20
great shape to take away one of the five uh free trips that will be given
1:52:25
away at the end of the month yeah and um remember on that on that contest page if you want to see
1:52:30
the availability of where they could be going we have the lodge section right there great little section you gotta check it
1:52:36
out you can you'll see all the lodges available as of right now so you created a spot to check it out
1:52:42
and something else i just thought of all these wonderful questions some of them that we probably didn't get to today um
1:52:47
regarding questions about lodges and operators and and their products and stuff now you can go directly to them they're
1:52:54
all on on the uh on the site uh feel free to reach out to them and ask them yourself
1:52:59
you know you don't have to be a winner to communicate with them in fact you should probably communicate with
1:53:05
them now maybe you can you can hook up with them and it's it'll be a good omen or karma or whatever you might
1:53:12
end up winning it who knows but to hook up with them any questions you might have uh they're wonderful folks all of them are
1:53:18
there just to to to be able to answer your questions so feel free all right ty what's his name mean to you
1:53:25
tyler mcmuff mcmullen i i saw that i i didn't remember what are you rock
1:53:31
buddy i didn't even go there anyways um everybody uh stay safe please
1:53:36
enjoy um the wonderful weekend ahead uh richard thank you stay safe yourself too my friend
1:53:42
and uh we will probably talk to you sometime towards the end of next week and give you an update on everything
1:53:47
that's been going on um and if you have any questions regarding the contest uh nick has posted the place where you
1:53:55
can get answers directly from us uh and if not just go to infoedfishingcanada.com and
1:54:00
you'll get through as well thanks again everybody have a great weekend see ya
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